Finding length with two given frequencies

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To determine the depth of the mine shaft using the frequencies of 83.72 Hz and 107.64 Hz, the speed of sound in air at 20 °C is 343 m/s. The equation f = n*Vs/(4L) relates the frequencies to the length of the shaft, L. The attempt to solve for L by substituting one frequency into the other leads to cancellation of L, indicating a misinterpretation of the resonant frequencies. It is suggested that the lower frequency is not the fundamental, as the next resonant frequency would not match the observed values. Correctly identifying the harmonic numbers is essential for accurately calculating the shaft's depth.
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Homework Statement



You find an abandoned mine shaft and wish to measure its depth. Using an audio oscillator of variable frequency, you note that you can produce successive resonances at frequencies of 83.72 Hz and 107.64 Hz. What is the depth of the shaft? Assume the temperature in the shaft is 20 °C.

Vs = 343 m/s

Homework Equations



f = n*Vs/(4L)

The Attempt at a Solution



83.72 = n1*343/(4L) 107.64 = n2*343/(4L)

When I solve for L on one of the equations to plug into the other. The L's end up canceling each other out, so I don't get L which is what I am trying to find.
 
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leinad0213 said:

Homework Statement



You find an abandoned mine shaft and wish to measure its depth. Using an audio oscillator of variable frequency, you note that you can produce successive resonances at frequencies of 83.72 Hz and 107.64 Hz. What is the depth of the shaft? Assume the temperature in the shaft is 20 °C.

Vs = 343 m/s

Homework Equations



f = n*Vs/(4L)

The Attempt at a Solution



83.72 = n1*343/(4L) 107.64 = n2*343/(4L)

When I solve for L on one of the equations to plug into the other. The L's end up canceling each other out, so I don't get L which is what I am trying to find.

Looks like you have assumed the lower frequency is the fundamental. If it was, the next frequency to resonate would be 3 times. clearly 107 is not 3 x 83, so neither is the fundamental.
 
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