Waves in Semiclosed Tubes: Calculating Frequencies and Lengths

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The discussion centers on calculating the length of a semiclosed tube based on observed frequencies of 1000 Hz, 1400 Hz, and 1800 Hz. It is established that these frequencies correspond to the fifth, seventh, and ninth harmonics, respectively, with a fundamental frequency of 200 Hz. Using the formula ƒn = 86n/L, the calculated length of the tube is 0.43 meters. The participant successfully navigates the complexities of harmonic relationships in semiclosed tubes to arrive at this conclusion.

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I'm doing a self-guidance type of study, trying to learn my way through a book based on physics and the sound of music. I haven't dabbled with waves since high school.

A semiclosed tube is sounded at room temperature. It is observed that the tube can be made to oscillate rather easily at several frequencies that include 1000, 1400, and 1800 Hz consecutively. What is the length of the tube?

I know that these are sequential harmonics. Therefore, given that it's a semiclosed tube and L = length of tube in meters:

λ1 = 4L
λ3 = 4L/3
λ5 = 4L/5
λ7 = 4L/7​

I'm having trouble figuring out how to determine exactly which harmonics these are. Converting the frequencies into their respective periods gives me:


Tn = \frac{1}{1000 Hz} = 0.001000 s
Tn+2 = \frac{1}{1400 Hz} = 0.0007143 s
Tn+4 = \frac{1}{1800 Hz} = 0.0005555 s​

(where n is the nth harmonic)​

Looking at the basis for harmonics (in semiclosed tubes), I know that if a wave travels a distance of 4L, or an odd-numbered integral quotient of 4L, in a time equal to its own period, a standing wave is formed. In other words, the 1000 Hz wave listed above must travel 4L/n meters in 0.001000 second for a standing wave to form.

But how can I determine what n is? One cannot simply assume that 1000 Hz is the fundamental frequency. Likewise, as shown by the basic wave formula of v = ƒλ, one cannot calculate wavelength from frequency/period alone.

I thought about an approach based around velocity but, again, I only know the time component of one oscillation.

Assuming room temperature (23 °C; 296 K), I know that:

ƒn = \frac{86n}{L}

The calculation would be simple, but I don't know how I can calculate n. I apologize for not having more work to show, and I've tried to make up for that by posting my logic, but I'm at a standstill.
 
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Converting into wavelengths and time periods is not the easiest way to do this.

If the fundamental frequency of a closed tube is f, what are the frequencies of the harmonics?

Try to match up that information with the observed frequencies of 1000, 1400, 1800. (Hint: think about the difference between successive frequencies).
 
Thanks, Aleph. You're right; I was making it too complicated. :approve:

AlephZero said:
If the fundamental frequency of a closed tube is f, what are the frequencies of the harmonics?

For closed tubes, ƒn = nƒ1

So, in response to your question: ƒ2 = 2f, ƒ3 = 3f, ƒ4 = 4f, and so on.

Try to match up that information with the observed frequencies of 1000, 1400, 1800. (Hint: think about the difference between successive frequencies).

With the 400 Hz difference between successive frequencies, and knowing that even harmonics are skipped in semiclosed tubes, that must mean the fundamental frequency is 200 Hz. Which means that 1000 Hz is the fifth harmonic, 1400 Hz is the seventh, and 1800 Hz is the ninth.

Now, given my formula ƒn = 86n/L, I can calculate the length of the tube. - 0.43 m

Thanks!
 

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