Finding the Coefficient of Restitution: Help with Lab Calculations

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The discussion revolves around a lab experiment aimed at finding the coefficient of restitution using a tennis ball dropped from a recorded height. Participants are exploring the relationship between the ball and the floor during the bouncing process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are discussing the definition of the two bodies involved in the collision and questioning the assumptions about the rebound speed of the Earth. There are attempts to derive expressions related to the coefficient of restitution based on recorded bounce heights and times.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing mathematical relationships and others seeking clarification on the data recorded during the experiment. There is an emphasis on understanding the timing of bounces and how it relates to the coefficient of restitution.

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There are mentions of difficulties in precisely determining the moment the ball stops bouncing and the implications this has for the data collection process. Some participants express uncertainty about the recorded data and its relevance to the calculations.

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Homework Statement


So we are doing a lab that is basically finding the coefficeint of restituion, what we did in this lab is drop a tennis ball from an initial height (recorded that height) and timed it until it stopped bouncing. So we have the time it stopped bouncing at and the height, and now we have to find the coefficeint of restution.

So I am guessing the two bodies in this situation is the ball, and the floor?

Homework Equations


e = (v2final - v1final / v2initial - vinitial)

The Attempt at a Solution


So i know that v2f - v1f is equal to the velocity of separation, which is the veloicty of the ball and second body after the collision, and v2i - v1i is the velocity of the ball and second body before the collision. Before i move further i would like to have help figuring out the second body in this collision.
 
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The rebound speed of the Earth can be assumed zero.

You have recorded the time to execute a number of bounces?
 
Since the speed of the Earth is zero e = -V1 / V0
From this you can show that e = (h1 / h0)^1/2 or h1 = e^2 h0
and h2 = e^2 h1 = e^4 h0 and hn = e^2n h0
Now, can you use this to find and expression for tn ?
 
J Hann said:
Now, can you use this to find and expression for tn ?
What is tn and why do you need to determine it? You still haven't explained exactly what data you recorded; I think it would be difficult to sense precisely the moment that a ball takes its final "bounce", and it's not clear how you would use that moment.
 
NascentOxygen said:
What is tn and why do you need to determine it? You still haven't explained exactly what data you recorded; I think it would be difficult to sense precisely the moment that a ball takes its final "bounce", and it's not clear how you would use that moment.
I suspect that the time between bounces follows a sequence that has a finite sum, and that the sum depends upon the coefficient of restitution (among other things). So if you determine a time that the ball finishes bouncing (at least perceptibly to the observer), then you can determine a value for the coefficient.
 
gneill said:
I suspect that the time between bounces follows a sequence that has a finite sum, and that the sum depends upon the coefficient of restitution (among other things). So if you determine a time that the ball finishes bouncing (at least perceptibly to the observer), then you can determine a value for the coefficient.
I was inviting OP to post the maths he has on this; most likely it has been discussed in class or homework.
 
NascentOxygen said:
I was inviting OP to post the maths he has on this; most likely it has been discussed in class or homework.
Ah. Sorry about that.
 

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