Finding the electric field at 3 points due to 2 identical charges.

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The discussion revolves around determining the electric field magnitudes at three points (A, B, and C) on the x-axis due to two identical positive charges located at specific positions. Participants are focused on ranking the electric field strengths without calculating exact values.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the relationship between distance and electric field strength, noting that smaller distances lead to stronger fields. There are attempts to calculate the distances for each point and discuss the implications of direction on the electric field.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the effects of charge direction and the cancellation of electric fields at point B. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the electric field's direction and its impact on the overall strength at each point.

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There is an emphasis on the need to consider both the magnitude and direction of the electric field, as well as the specific request to rank the fields without providing numerical values. The original poster's request for clarification on the calculations and the significance of the electric field's direction is noted.

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3 points (a,b and c) and two identical positive charges. How do you find MAGNITUDE of the electric field at the 3 points? I just need to rank them, don't need numbers.

all points are on the x-axis:
A (x=0); charge +Q(x=1); B (x=3); c(x=4); charge+Q(x=5)

(Picture attached in the 3rd post)

Homework Equations



E= (1/4pie) (q/r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I just focused on the r^2 since everything in the formula is the same.
for point A: 1^2+ 5^2 = 26
Point B: 2^2+2^2 = 8
Point C: 1^2 + 3+2 = 10

so would B then have the greatest strength while A has the least?
 
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get_physical said:
3 points (a,b and c) and two identical positive charges. How do you find MAGNITUDE of the electric field at the 3 points? I just need to rank them, don't need numbers.

all points are on the x-axis:

A (x=0); charge +Q(x=1); B (x=3); c(x=4); charge+Q(x=5)

Homework Equations



E= (1/4pie) (q/r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I just focused on the r^2 since everything in the formula is the same.
for point A: 1^2+ 5^2 = 26
Point B: 2^2+2^2 = 8
Point C: 1^2 + 3+2 = 10

so would B then have the greatest strength while A has the least?
r2 is in the denominator. You need to add or subtract 1/12 and 1/52, 1/22 and 1/22, etc.

Also you haven't taken into account the direction of the E field from each charge.
 
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Yes, r^2 is the denominator, that's why the smallest r^2 will have the strongest field. Can you please explain what you mean I need to add or subtract?
 
In that case, would there be no electric field strength at B? since the directions are opposite, so they cancel each other out?
 
get_physical said:
In that case, would there be no electric field strength at B? since the directions are opposite, so they cancel each other out?
Yes.

As for using 1/r, not r2:
1/1+1/52 = 25/25 + 1/25 = 26/25

1/22 + 1/22 = 1/4 + 1/4 = 1/2   (Yes, I know these should be subtracted, but this is just to illustrate the point.)​
 
SammyS said:
Yes.

As for using 1/r, not r2:
1/1+1/52 = 25/25 + 1/25 = 26/25

1/22 + 1/22 = 1/4 + 1/4 = 1/2   (Yes, I know these should be subtracted, but this is just to illustrate the point.)​

In this case, after doing the calculations, would a have the smallest electric field strength since it is -26/25, and then after that would be B with 0 and finally, C?
 
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would you just assume the left is negative while if arrows pointing to the right is positive?
Thanks
 
get_physical said:
In this case, after doing the calculations, would a have the smallest electric field strength since it is -26/25, and then after that would be B with 0 and finally, C?
What do you get for electric field at point C ?

Look at the problem statement. It asks about the "MAGNITUDE of the electric field". (That capitalization was in your original post.)

As with number lines, it's fairly standard to consider a vector pointing to the right to be positive, and left is negative.
 
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Oh ! thank you so much I finally got it. thank you for your patience. appreciated!
 

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