Finding the Fourier Coefficients for mechanics homework

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The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier coefficients for a triangular wave function. The user initially calculates the coefficients but arrives at a different result than the textbook, prompting questions about potential computational errors. After reviewing the setup and equations, it is clarified that the Fourier series formulas used were correct, but mistakes occurred in the integration steps. Ultimately, the user corrects their calculations, confirming that the Fourier series representation is accurate. The final expression for the function is established as f(t) = 1/2 + Σ (4/(2n-1)²π²) cos((2n-1)πt).
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Homework Statement


Find the Fourier Coefficients for the triangular wave equation shown in this picture:
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Homework Equations


##f(t)= a_0 + \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_{n}cos(n{\omega}t) + \sum_{n=1}^\infty b_{n}sin(n{\omega}t)##
##a_0 = \frac{1}{\tau}\int_{-\tau/2}^{\tau/2} f(t) \, dt##
## \omega = \frac{2\pi}{\tau}##
##a_n = \frac{2}{\tau}\int_{-\tau/2}^{\tau/2}f(t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt##
##b_n = \frac{2}{\tau}\int_{-\tau/2}^{\tau/2}f(t)sin(n\omega t) \, dt = 0, \forall n##, because it's an even function

The Attempt at a Solution


## \tau = 2##
##a_0 = \frac{1}{2}\int_{-1}^{1} 1-|t| \, dt= \frac{1}{2}[\int_{-1}^{0} 1+t \, dt+\int_{0}^{1} 1-t \, dt]=\frac{1}{2} [\frac{1}{2}+\frac{1}{2}]=\frac{1}{2} .##

##a_n = \frac{2}{2}\int_{-1}^{1}f(t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt= \int_{-1}^{0}(1+t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt + \int_{0}^{1}(1-t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt ,##
Which, when computed through many tiresome intermediate steps, gives:
##a_n= \frac{2}{n^2\pi^2} ##, which differs from the answer in the textbook, ##a_n= \frac{4}{n^2\pi^2}, n=1,3,5,7,...; a_n=0, n=2,4,6,8,10,...##

So my question is, have I set up the problem correctly and made a computational mistake somewhere along the way in my integrals? Or am I missing something in the setup of the problem and missing the point entirely? It's a *** problem in our textbook(aka the most difficult level) and it's also a "computer problem", so I'm sure my prof won't expect me to do a problem this laborious on a test, but I'd still like to know where I went sour.
 
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\Theta said:

Homework Equations


##f(t)= a_0 + \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_{n}cos(n{\omega}t) + \sum_{n=1}^\infty b_{n}sin(n{\omega}t)##
##a_0 = \frac{1}{\tau}\int_{-\tau/2}^{\tau/2} f(t) \, dt##
## \omega = \frac{2\pi}{\tau}##
##a_n = \frac{2}{\tau}\int_{-\tau/2}^{\tau/2}f(t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt##
##b_n = \frac{2}{\tau}\int_{-\tau/2}^{\tau/2}f(t)sin(n\omega t) \, dt = 0, \forall n##, because it's an even function
Are you sure about these equation? If yes, what is ##\omega##?
 
DrClaude said:
Are you sure about these equation? If yes, what is ##\omega##?
Well, these are the generic formula for the Fourier Series for a function. ##\omega = \frac{2\pi}{\tau}=\frac{2\pi}{2}=\pi##, I guess I wasn't as explicit about it but I considered it trivial.
 
\Theta said:
Well, these are the generic formula for the Fourier Series for a function. ##\omega = \frac{2\pi}{\tau}=\frac{2\pi}{2}=\pi##, I guess I wasn't as explicit about it but I considered it trivial.
There can be different conventions, so I just wanted to make sure that I understood.
\Theta said:
##a_n = \frac{2}{2}\int_{-1}^{1}f(t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt= \int_{-1}^{0}(1+t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt + \int_{0}^{1}(1-t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt ,##
Which, when computed through many tiresome intermediate steps, gives:
##a_n= \frac{2}{n^2\pi^2} ##
You'll have to give the intermediate steps, because the first line is correct, but the last equality doesn't follow.
 
DrClaude said:
There can be different conventions, so I just wanted to make sure that I understood.
You'll have to give the intermediate steps, because the first line is correct, but the last equality doesn't follow.
Oh, I see what you were asking. Sorry.:smile:

##a_n = \frac{2}{2}\int_{-1}^{1}f(t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt= \int_{-1}^{0}(1+t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt + \int_{0}^{1}(1-t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt ,##
##=\int_{-1}^{0}cos(n\omega t) \, dt +\int_{-1}^{0}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt +\int_{0}^{1}cos(n\omega t) \, dt -\int_{0}^{1}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt ##
##= \int_{-1}^{1}cos(n\omega t) \, dt +\int_{-1}^{0}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt -\int_{0}^{1}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt##
##= \frac{sin(n{\pi}t)}{n\pi}|_{-1}^1+\int_{-1}^{0}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt -\int_{0}^{1}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt##
##= 0 +[\frac{tsin(n{\pi}t)}{n\pi}+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{-1}^0-[\frac{tsin(n{\pi}t)}{n\pi}+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{0}^1##
##=0 +[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{-1}^0-[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{0}^1##
##= 0 + \frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}-\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}##
##=\frac{2}{n^2\pi^2}##:wideeyed:

BTW, thanks a bunch for helping out DrClaude.
 
\Theta said:
Oh, I see what you were asking. Sorry.:smile:

##a_n = \frac{2}{2}\int_{-1}^{1}f(t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt= \int_{-1}^{0}(1+t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt + \int_{0}^{1}(1-t)cos(n\omega t) \, dt ,##
##=\int_{-1}^{0}cos(n\omega t) \, dt +\int_{-1}^{0}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt +\int_{0}^{1}cos(n\omega t) \, dt -\int_{0}^{1}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt ##
##= \int_{-1}^{1}cos(n\omega t) \, dt +\int_{-1}^{0}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt -\int_{0}^{1}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt##
##= \frac{sin(n{\pi}t)}{n\pi}|_{-1}^1+\int_{-1}^{0}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt -\int_{0}^{1}tcos(n\omega t) \, dt##
##= 0 +[\frac{tsin(n{\pi}t)}{n\pi}+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{-1}^0-[\frac{tsin(n{\pi}t)}{n\pi}+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{0}^1##
##=0 +[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{-1}^0-[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{0}^1##
##= 0 + \frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}-\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}##

##=\frac{2}{n^2\pi^2}##:wideeyed:

BTW, thanks a bunch for helping out DrClaude.
I think I see where I went wrong :oldbiggrin:
Looks like it was just a silly case of the negative signs cancelling each other.
Should be:
##=0 +[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{-1}^0-[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{0}^1##
##=\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2} ##
##= \frac{4cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}##
##=\frac{4(-1)^n}{n^2\pi^2} ##
 
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\Theta said:
##=0 +[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{-1}^0-[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{0}^1##
##=\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2} ##
Getting closer, but that second line doesn't follow from the first.
 
DrClaude said:
Getting closer, but that second line doesn't follow from the first.

##=0 +[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{-1}^0-[0+\frac{cos(n{\pi}t)}{n^2\pi^2}|_{0}^1##
##=\frac{cos(0)}{n^2\pi^2} - \frac{cos(-n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}-\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{cos(0)}{n^2\pi^2}##
##=\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2} - \frac{cos(-n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}-\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2} ##
##=\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2} - \frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}-\frac{cos(n\pi)}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}##
##=\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2} +\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}## when n is odd
and ##=\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2} - \frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}-\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}+\frac{1}{n^2\pi^2}=0## when n is even
So the Fourier series for the function would be:
##f(t)= a_0 + \sum_{n=1}^\infty a_{n}cos(n{\omega}t) + \sum_{n=1}^\infty b_{n}sin(n{\omega}t)##
##=\frac{1}{2}+\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{4}{(2n-1)^2\pi^2}cos((2n-1){\pi}t)##

That looks right. DrClaude, I definitely owe you one.
 
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Case closed.