Finding the gravitational force over a flat infinite sheet

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The discussion focuses on calculating the gravitational force over a flat infinite sheet using Gauss' Law and integration techniques. Participants clarify the need to define the variable of integration and the correct mass of the infinitesimal ring, emphasizing that only the vertical component of the force should be considered. The correct expression for the infinitesimal area is identified as an annulus, leading to the area element of 2πrdr instead of a full area calculation. There is confusion about integrating from R to infinity and the use of circumference in the calculations, which is explained as necessary for maintaining a constant distance in the integration process. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of proper mathematical formulation in solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F=ma
F=Gm1m2/r2
Gauss' Law?

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I'm not sure if I should be using Gauss' Law for this question, because I've never heard of it or learned about it. I'm currently taking multi-variable calculus (gradients, vectors, etc.). From what I know, the gravitational force should be found using an integral from R to infinity for the area of the plane... but I'm not sure what to do from there.

G*∫((mσ)/(Z^2))*dA from R to ∞?
 

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You can't "dA from R". Decide what your variable of integration is and use that in the range, in the expression for the force and in the expression for the infinitesimal element.
 
Okay, I'm starting to visualize it now, but I'm not sure how to put it into mathematics. I want to find the gravitational force for each concentric circle that has mass σπ(r2-R2) because V*σ=Msheet, and just using geometry the distance between the mass and the circles would be (r2+Z2)½, here's where I am:

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However, I know that it's not correct mathematically because I'm not sure how to include dr, which I know is supposed to be in here. How can I make it a part of my integral? Or am I approaching this incorrectly?
 

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The dr is included by putting the correct mass of the infinitesimal ring which is σ2πrdr.
 
Note also that only the vertical component of the force due to the ring is to be considered.
 
grzz said:
The dr is included by putting the correct mass of the infinitesimal ring which is σ2πrdr.
grzz said:
Note also that only the vertical component of the force due to the ring is to be considered.
I'm not sure how to visualize it this way, but what you're saying is that my equation (inside the integral) should be ((Gσ2πr*m)/Z2)*dr? I used the second equation from #2 in my original post, m being the mass of the point and G being the constant. Why is the equation for circumference instead of area used? I made the integral from R to ∞, which I believe is correct, right?
 
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Why is the equation for circumference instead of area used?
Because the element has to consist of a region for which d is roughly constant. That makes it an annulus of internal radius r and external radius r+dr. That has area 2πrdr.
 

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