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The discussion focuses on calculating instantaneous power using phasor forms and time-domain multiplication. The initial approach of multiplying the phasors did not yield the correct results, prompting a reevaluation of the current representation. The key insight is recognizing that √(2)cos(337t + π) is equivalent to -√(2)cos(337t), which simplifies the power calculation. The final expression for power is presented as -2cos²(337t), which can also be expressed in an alternative form involving cos(754t). Understanding these transformations is crucial for solving similar problems in electrical engineering.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


P = IV

The Attempt at a Solution


The solution is there and they did it by multiplying everything in the time domain.

However, I decided to try to multiply the phasor forms to get the power but that did not work...

V*I = sqrt(2)cos(377t) * sqrt(2)cos(377t+pi)
= (sqrt2<0)(sqrt2<180)
= 2<180
= 2cos(377t+pi)

What is wrong with this?
 
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We want to simplify I first..
##√(2)cos(337t + \pi) \equiv -√(2)cos(337t) ##
Therefore, ##I = -√(2)cos(337t) ##
## P = IV = (-√(2)cos(337t))(√(2)cos(337t)) = -2cos^2(337t) ##
By the double-angle formulas:
##cos 2u \equiv 2cos^2u - 1##
##-cos 2u - 1 \equiv -2cos^2u##

$$ -2cos^2(337t) \equiv -cos(754t) - 1$$
$$ -cos(754t) - 1 \equiv cos(754t + \pi) -1 $$

The key to this problem is recognizing that $$√(2)cos(337t + \pi) \equiv -√(2)cos(337t)$$
Leaving your answer as ##-2cos^2(337t) ##would be fine since ##-2cos^2(337t) \equiv -1+1cos(754t + \pi). ##
 
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