Finding the Magnitude of a Dipole Moment

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the magnitude of an electric dipole moment in the context of a uniform electric field. The original poster presents a problem involving torque on a dipole and its relationship with the angle between the dipole moment and the electric field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the relationship between torque and angle, particularly how to determine the minimum and maximum torque values. Some participants clarify that the minimum torque occurs when sin(theta) is zero and the maximum when sin(theta) is one, suggesting a focus on maximum torque for solving the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in clarifying the concepts of torque and angles related to the dipole moment. There is a recognition of confusion regarding the material, and some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions for minimum and maximum torque.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses uncertainty about the figure referenced in the problem and the interpretation of the y-axis values. There is also mention of previous coursework affecting the understanding of the current topic.

jendead
Messages
18
Reaction score
0
[SOLVED] Finding the Magnitude of a Dipole Moment

Hi there,
I'm new to posting, but I've used this forum many times to help me with my homework :) I went the "take a photo of the textbook" route (there is a picture with the problem), so I hope that's acceptable.

Homework Statement


A certain electric dipole is placed in a uniform electric field E of magnitude 40 N/C. Figure 22-51 gives the magnitude (t) of the torque on the dipole versus the angle (theta) between field E and the dipole moment p. What is the magnitude of p?

E = 40 N/C

Homework Equations


(t) = -pEsin(theta)

The Attempt at a Solution


The hint we were given was "When is the torque minimum, and when is it maximum?"

I'm not sure where to start. The textbook and my lecture notes aren't helping me at all.

I don't quite understand the given figure, or what is being counted on the y-axis (I think that number on the left is multiplied by 10^-28?). I assume that somehow I am supposed to use the min/max torque, set them equal to each other, and solve for p.. but I don't know how I'm supposed to find the min/max angles in order to do this.

edit: Apparently file attachments don't work..
http://www.clan-dm.net/members/jen/dipolequestion.jpg
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
The minimum torque will be when sin theta is equal to zero. The maximum will be when sin theta is equal to one. Yes, the y-axis is multiplied by 10-28. Since the minimum torque is zero i would suggest using the maximum torque.
 
Ok, that makes sense now. For some reason max torque being at 90 degrees was completely glossed over in class. In retrospect it does seem obvious now, but when I'm learning new stuff I become confused very easily.. especially when my last calc class was over a year ago.

Thank you very much. I'm sure I'll be back, because this semester is already killing me. :)
 
No problem. P.s. Welcome to the forums. :smile:
 
Thank you! I only wish I thought of registering sooner. :)
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 25 ·
Replies
25
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
5K
Replies
19
Views
4K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K