Finding the Obtuse Angle Between Diagonals in a Diagram

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To determine the obtuse angle between the diagonals in the given diagram, the intersection point O is established, and the dot product method is suggested. The lengths of vectors OW and OZ are calculated, but the numerator for the cosine formula is missing. A coordinate system is proposed for convenience, with points defined as X = (0,0), W = (5,6), Z = (15,6), and Y = (10,0). An alternative approach is suggested to find the angle between the vectors (X,Z) and (Y,W), which simplifies the calculation while still allowing for visualization of the intersecting diagonals.
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so i have to determine the obtuse angle between the diagonals in the following diagram:

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6112/obtuse9hg.jpg

this is what i have so far:

let's call the intersection of the diagonals O
so to find the obtuse angle, we can apply dot product (OW • OZ)

|OW| = 1/2 |YW|
= sqrt(61)/2

|OZ| = 1/2 |XZ|
= 3sqrt(24)/2

but if cos (theta) = (OW • OZ)/ (|OW||OZ|)

i don't have the numerator portion which is usually found with coordinates. so what do i do now?
 
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Why not choose a coordinate system that is convenient?
 
oh ok so X = (0,0), W = (5,6), Z = (15,6), Y = (19,0)? and then go on to find the position vectors of OW and OZ?
 
You could do it that way. It doesn't really make a difference as long as you can construct vectors OW and OZ (using your logic)
 
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oh ok so X = (0,0), W = (5,6), Z = (15,6), Y = (19,0)? and then go on to find the position vectors of OW and OZ?
You mean Y = (10,0), right?

If you want the angle between the diagonals, then why not simply find the angle between the vectors (X,Z) and (Y,W)?
 
yeah the Y coordinate was a typo. and i can see how your method is easier as well. i think the technique i chose is a little bit better to visualize, as you can actually see the diagonals intersecting and forming the obtuse angle.
 
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