Finding the radius in the universal gravity equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the radius of a satellite's orbit using the universal gravity equation. The problem involves gravitational force, centripetal force, and orbital speed, with given constants for mass and gravitational constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal force, questioning which force maintains circular motion and discussing relevant equations. There is uncertainty about how to proceed with the two unknowns in the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing equations and attempting to relate gravitational force to centripetal force. Some guidance has been offered regarding equating the forces, but no consensus has been reached on how to resolve the unknowns.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of having two unknowns in the equations, specifically gravitational force and radius, and express confusion about how to proceed with the calculations.

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Homework Statement


G= 6.67 *10^-11
M= 5.97*10^24 kg
m= 430 kg
Orbital speed=6800m/s
I'm supposed to find radius of satellite orbit.

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I don't know where to start because in order to find radius, I have to find period as well
 
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Assuming a circular orbit, what force is providing the centripetal force to maintain that circular motion?

What equations are relevant?
 
Fg= G*M*m/r^2, v=2Pi(r)/T, acent=v^2/r
I'm not sure what force maintains circular motion. I would assume gravity
 
Madelin Pierce said:
Fg= G*M*m/r^2, v=2Pi(r)/T, acent=v^2/r
I'm not sure what force maintains circular motion. I would assume gravity
Gravity is correct. It's providing the centripetal force.

There's an equation for centripetal force that involves the velocity but not the period T. Do you know what it is?
 
I don't think so. I know there's F=mv^2/r, but I would still have two unknowns, Fg and r.
 
Madelin Pierce said:
I don't think so. I know there's F=mv^2/r, but I would still have two unknowns, Fg and r.

Do you have an expression for gravitational force? (I assume that's what you mean by Fg.)
 
Madelin Pierce said:
I don't think so. I know there's F=mv^2/r, but I would still have two unknowns, Fg and r.
Yes. That's good for ##F_c##. You've already stated an equation for ##F_g##. Try equating them. Can you solve for r?
 
Madelin Pierce said:
I don't think so. I know there's F=mv^2/r, but I would still have two unknowns, Fg and r.

Everybody keeps asking if you have equations that you already wrote!

You said the centripetal force must be
F = mv^2/r

You said the gravitational force is
Fg = G Mm/r^2

When asked what force maintains orbit you said “I assume gravity”

You said “I would still have 2 unknowns”

So that’s 2 equations in 2 unknowns. Hmmm ... what to do, what to do?
 

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