Finding the Slope of a Polar Curve at a Given Point

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The discussion revolves around finding the slope of the tangent line to the polar curve defined by the equation r² = 9 sin(3θ) at a specific point (3, π/6). The subject area involves polar coordinates and derivatives in trigonometric contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of taking the square root of the polar equation, noting the potential for multiple cases (r = ±3√(sin(3θ))). There is a focus on the complexity of deriving the slope from the polar equation and the behavior of the function.

Discussion Status

Some participants have explored the relationship between the positive and negative cases of r, noting that both yield similar results in terms of slope despite differing signs. There is acknowledgment of the unique characteristics of polar functions, with references to graphical interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the polar curve's symmetry and the behavior of the function around the origin, which may affect the interpretation of the slope at the given point.

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Homework Statement


Find the slope to the tangent line to the polar curve r^2 = 9 sin (3θ) at the point (3, π/6)


Homework Equations



dy/dx = (r cos θ + sin θ dr/dθ)/(-r sin θ + cos θ dr/dθ)

The Attempt at a Solution



So I have no issues with taking r^2 = 9 sin (3θ) and taking the root to get r = 3√(sin 3θ)
and then subbing that into the equation.

My problem is that it's only one case, and the derivative of a square root of a trig equation is messy. I think I'm missing something - any assistant would be appreciated.
 
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(i.e. what about the case where r = -3sqrt(sin 3theta)?
 
I think this is one of those things where only one of the answers you get will make sense with the situation:

If r can equal +- (stuff) that means the function is mirrored about the center of your polar function. I didn't graph it but I think this is like a clover thing, right? Lemme draw it.

It's not very well drawn, but I think it gets the point across. Polar functions are weird lol
 

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You were right. I followed it through, and because the two were opposites of each other, I had one case where it was a negative divided by a positive, and the other was a positive divided by a negative, getting the same answer.

Thanks!
 
No problem
 

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