Finding the speed of rolling ball

In summary, the conversation discusses the application of work energy theorem and the use of friction in rolling motion. The conversation also delves into the conservation of angular momentum in this type of motion.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


In rolling motion, friction doesn't work. So, applying work energy theorem,
## \frac 1 2 m v_0 ^2 =\frac 1 2 mv^2 + \frac 1 2 I_{center} \omega ^2 ##
## taking~ I_{ center} = \frac 2 5 m R^2 ~and ~ v =\omega R ,
v = \sqrt {( \frac 5 7 v_0 )} ##
 
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Pushoam said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


In rolling motion, friction doesn't work. So, applying work energy theorem,
## \frac 1 2 m v_0 ^2 =\frac 1 2 mv^2 + \frac 1 2 I_{center} \omega ^2 ##
## taking~ I_{ center} = \frac 2 5 m R^2 ~and ~ v =\omega R ,
v = \sqrt {( \frac 5 7 v_0 )} ##
I assume you meant the v0 to be outside the square root.
You are overlooking the energy lost to friction while sliding. We want the velocity just as it transitions to rolling. Up until then it has been sliding, as well as rotating.
 
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Thanks to friction the ball can move.
Heat dissipation will be absent.
Remember v = omega R(ball) and eliminate omega.
 
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haruspex said:
I assume you meant the v0 to be outside the square root.
Yes.
haruspex said:
You are overlooking the energy lost to friction while sliding.
Yes, I considered this motion as rolling motion from start unknowingly.
Friction doesn't work in rolling motion. But, it does work in sliding motion.


Another attempt:
##v = v_0 - f_r t /m = \omega R##
## \tau = f_r R = \frac 2 5 m R^2 \alpha##
## \omega = \alpha t = \frac {5 f_r } {2 m R} t
\\ \frac { f_r t } m = \frac 2 5 v
\\ v = \frac 5 7 v_0 ##

So, done. Thanks.
 
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Pushoam said:
Yes.

Yes, I considered this motion as rolling motion from start unknowingly.
Friction doesn't work in rolling motion. But, it does work in sliding motion.


Another attempt:
##v = v_0 - f_r t /m = \omega R##
## \tau = f_r R = \frac 2 5 m R^2 \alpha##
## \omega = \alpha t = \frac {5 f_r } {2 m R} t
\\ \frac { f_r t } m = \frac 2 5 v
\\ v = \frac 5 7 v_0 ##

So, done. Thanks.
There is an interesting quick method on this one.
Since the friction acts at ground level, angular momentum about an axis at ground level is conserved.
 
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haruspex said:
There is an interesting quick method on this one.
Since the friction acts at ground level, angular momentum about an axis at ground level is conserved
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Thanks for this insight. This is really interesting.
 

1. What is the formula for finding the speed of a rolling ball?

The formula for finding the speed of a rolling ball is speed = distance / time. This means that you divide the distance the ball travels by the time it takes to travel that distance.

2. How do you measure the distance a rolling ball travels?

The distance a rolling ball travels can be measured using a ruler or measuring tape. Simply place the measuring tool along the path of the ball and measure the distance it covers.

3. What units are used to measure the speed of a rolling ball?

The speed of a rolling ball can be measured in units such as meters per second (m/s), kilometers per hour (km/h), or feet per second (ft/s). It is important to use consistent units when calculating and reporting the speed.

4. Are there any factors that can affect the accuracy of the calculated speed?

Yes, there are several factors that can affect the accuracy of the calculated speed of a rolling ball. These include air resistance, surface friction, and the precision of the measuring equipment used.

5. Can the speed of a rolling ball be different on different surfaces?

Yes, the speed of a rolling ball can vary depending on the surface it is rolling on. Factors such as surface friction and incline can affect the speed of the ball. It is important to take these factors into account when conducting experiments or making calculations.

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