Finding the velocity of a wave

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The discussion centers on understanding the transition from the surface height equation of a 1-dimensional wave to the velocity field equations. The participant is struggling to validate their method of deriving the velocity equations from the position function, particularly the role of the z-coordinate in a transverse wave context. They are seeking clarification on the physical meaning of the scalar function φ and its relationship to particle motion in the wave. The conversation highlights the need for further details from the textbook and additional insights from the upcoming lecture to resolve these ambiguities. Overall, the focus remains on clarifying the mathematical derivation and physical interpretation of wave properties.
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I am currently studying a course on waves, which has a real ambiguity in the lecture notes. Essentially, I don't know how the professor got from equation \ref{eq:surf_x-y} to equations \ref{eq:vel_u} and \ref{eq:vel_w}. I have tried to work backwards to find a method but am not sure of its validity.

Please note that this is not a homework excercise, so full answers are appreciated.

Given formulas
The step is from the surface height of a 1-dimensional wave, given by \begin{equation}\label{eq:surf_x-y}\eta(x,t) = A \cos(kx - \omega t)\end{equation} to a velocity field $$\mathbf{v}(x,z,t) = (u(x,z,t),w(x,z,t)),$$ where \begin{equation}\label{eq:vel_u}u(x,z,t) = A \omega \frac{\cosh(k(H+z))}{\sinh(k H)}\, \cos(kx - \omega t)\end{equation} and \begin{equation}\label{eq:vel_w}w(x,z,t) = A \omega \frac{\sinh(k(H+z))}{\sinh(k H)}\, \sin(kx - \omega t).\end{equation}

My workings
Given this as true, one finds a position function \begin{equation}\label{eq:pos_r}\phi(x,z,t) = \frac{A \omega}{k} \frac{\cosh(k(H+z))}{\sinh(k H)}\, \sin(kx - \omega t)\end{equation} from the integration $$\phi(x,z,t) = \int \mathbf{v}(x,z,t) \cdot\mathrm{d}\mathbf{r},$$ from which follows the assumption that we have multiplied equation \ref{eq:surf_x-y} by a ##z##-dependent factor $$f(z) = \frac{\omega}{k}\,\frac{\cosh(k(H+z))}{\sinh(k H)}.$$

'Fudged method'
Now, the only way I can see of getting from \ref{eq:pos_phi} to ##\phi(x,z,t)=\eta(x,t)\,f(z)## is using the following method, which finds that:

\begin{equation}\label{eq:vel_vec}\mathbf{v}(x,z,t) = \frac{1}{k}\,\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\,\nabla \phi(x,z,t) = \left(\begin{array}{c}\frac{\partial}{\partial t}\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial x} \\ \frac{\partial}{\partial t}\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial z}\end{array}\right).\end{equation}

Attempt at physical justification
I'm trying to justify this in physical terms by using the relation for phase speed ##c##, which states that ##c = \frac{\omega}{k}##, meaning we can infer from equation \ref{eq:vel_vec} that if $$\mathbf{v}(x,z,t) = \frac{\mathbf{\omega}}{k}$$ and so \begin{equation}\mathbf{\omega} = \frac{\partial}{\partial t}\,\nabla \phi(x,z,t).\end{equation}

I am taking this to mean we have a scalar function ##\phi(x,z,t)##, whose gradient gives the position ##\mathbf{r}(x,y,t)=(r_x(t),r_y(t))## of particles in the wave, meaning its rate of change would give us the velocity in the respective directions. If this is true, what is the physical meaning of ##\phi##?
 
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It may help to formulate the problem in more detail. Maybe the source, too.
If it's 1-D wave what is the role of z coordinate? Is it a transverse wave?
 
nasu said:
It may help to formulate the problem in more detail. Maybe the source, too.
I didn't want to put people off with too long a post, but you're right, I should provide more information. The textbook is available for free online, and it's equations (1.01) and (1.10-11) that I'm having problems with.

nasu said:
If it's 1-D wave what is the role of z coordinate? Is it a transverse wave?
I don't understand either how the ##z## co-ordinate comes into play: my assumption was that ##\eta## represented vertcal surface height, which one would assume is the same as ##z##. I believe it has something to do with phase space?

It's a transverse wave, yes.

I'm going to ask for more information after the lecture today, so hopefully that'll clear things up.
 
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