Finding total angular momentum qnumber for 3d4d

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The discussion focuses on calculating total angular momentum quantum numbers for a system with two electrons, one in the 3d orbital (n=3, l=2) and the other in the 4d orbital (n=4, l=2). The possible values for the orbital angular momentum (L) are confirmed to be 4, 3, 2, 1, and 0, while the total spin (S) can be either 1 or 0. The total angular momentum (J) is derived from the combinations of L and S, resulting in 10 valid possibilities. The discussion also clarifies the use of spectroscopic notation and the implications of electron configurations on optical activity.

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  • Understanding of quantum numbers, specifically L (orbital angular momentum) and S (spin).
  • Familiarity with spectroscopic notation (2S+1XJ) and its components.
  • Knowledge of electron configurations in atomic orbitals (3d and 4d).
  • Basic principles of angular momentum coupling in quantum mechanics.
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Hey,

I've been able to do most of these problems but at this point I stopped because it gives 5 values for L and I just wanted to double check it is correct.

L = 2+2,...,2-2 = 4,3,2,1,0

S = 1,0

then you have to evaluate J for each L and S which will give 10 possibilities.

It's a pretty small question but, is it ok to have 5 values for L?
 
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Hi linda300! :smile:

Can you provide some more information?

What do you mean by a "qnumber"?
What do you mean by "3d4d"?
What do you mean by an L-number? Do you mean an angular momentum?
What do you mean by an S-number?
What do you mean by J?

I guess I didn't learn from the same book you're doing now and I may be used to different symbols and definitions.
I'll adjust to the symbols you are using, but I will need their definitions.
 
oh sorry,

i've read a few books which used wither L or l' notation for angular momentum,

qnumber i meant quantum number but i thought it might not fit in the heading,

3d4d means one electron at n=3, l=2 and one at n=4,l=2

S total spin= s1+s2, s1+s2-1,...,|s1-s2|

J total angular momentum= L+S, L+S-1,...,|L-S|

I think it's fine to have 10 different combinations they all look good,

However I do have another question related to this,

Spectroscopic notation is 2S+1XJ
Where X is the angular momentum according to below
If X= S, P, D, F, G, H...
Then L= 0 , 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...

Take 5P0 for example. so S=2, L=1 and J = 0

But according to S=2, L=1, J=3,2,1. so this state is impossible right? Also consider 3D1 S=1, L=2, J=1 which is possible,

Since S=1 does this mean that there must be 2 optically active electrons?

I think that's right but i just wanted to double check,

Thanks for answering
 
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