Finding Values of 'a' for f ''(x) + f(x)=0

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The discussion revolves around finding values of 'a' for the equation f''(x) + f(x) = 0, where f(x) is expressed in terms of a Maclaurin series involving sine and cosine functions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the Maclaurin series expansion for f(x) = Asin(ax) + Bcos(ax) and question the necessity of this approach. Some participants inquire about the differentiation process and its implications for solving the equation.

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Several participants have provided insights into differentiating the function and relating it back to the original equation. There is a mix of approaches being discussed, including direct differentiation and series expansion, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the best method to proceed.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the relevance of the Maclaurin series to the problem and question the importance of the constants A and B in the context of the solution.

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Let us take the first three non-zero terms of Maclaurin's expansion of
f(x)= Asen(ax) + Bcos(ax).
Determine for which values of a the equation f ' '(x) + f(x) = 0.
 
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Welcome to Physicsforums Oswald.

In this case it seems better to leave f(x) in exact form. Can you find f''(x) and express it in terms of f(x) ?
 
oswald said:
Let us take the first three non-zero terms of Maclaurin's expansion of
f(x)= Asen(ax) + Bcos(ax).
Determine for which values of a the equation f ' '(x) + f(x) = 0.

That looks like a homework problem and you haven't said anything about what YOU have already done. Do you know how to find the MacLaurin's series for a function?
 
Maclaurin Serie solution

I have done this, but it doesn't work...
......∞
A sin(ax) = A[ ∑ (-1)^k . (ax)^2k+1 ] / (2k+1)! to find Maclaurin series of A sin(ax)
......0
......∞
B cos(ax) = B[ ∑ (-1)^k . (ax)^2k ] / (2k)! is Maclaurin Series of B cos(ax)
......0

hence:

A sin(ax) = Aax - Aa³x³/6 + Aa^5x^5/120

B cos(ax) = 1 - Ba²x²/2 + Ba^4x^4/24

f''(x) + f(x) = 0

what is f''(x)? I think its:

f''(x) = 0 + 1
f(x) = A sen(ax) + B cos(ax)

so,

0 + 1 + Asen(ax) + B cos(ax) = 0

Asen(ax) + Bcos(ax) = -1

the answer is a= 1 and a= -1, but i don't know how. Is the value of A, B and x important?
 
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Hi,i found the solution in yahoo...

Take your function and differentiate it twice. observe that

f '' (x) = - a^2 f(x)

Substitute this into the equation. One possibility is that
A=B=0. Otherwise, cancel f(x) and you have a simple algebraic equation for a to solve.
have done:
f²(x)= -a²f(x)
so,
-a²f(x)+f(x)=0
f(x)[-a²+1]=0
a= 1 or -1!
i don't know why the teacher ask for Maclaurin series...
 
I don't know why you didn't just take my hint, which got at exactly the same thing, rather than go to Yahoo.
 

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