Finding velocity in an elastic problem

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a tire swing, a baseball, and the conservation of momentum and energy. Participants are attempting to solve for the velocities of both the baseball and Herman after a collision, as well as Herman's change in kinetic energy. There is confusion regarding the application of conservation laws, particularly in determining the height and angle (theta) related to Herman's movement after catching the ball. The conversation highlights the challenge of solving for unknown variables in elastic collisions and the need for clarity on the initial and final states of the system. Overall, the participants are seeking guidance on how to approach the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement

herman(m=135kg) is sitting motionless on a tire swing. eddie hits a baseball (m=2kg) and v=169 m/s. L=3.2m. (A)what is the velocity of the ball after the collision and (B) what is the velocity of herman after the collision. (C) what is herman's change in KE. (D) eddie hits another ball and this time herman catches it. as a result herman moves a height h, how fast was the ball going this time?

Homework Equations

p(0)=p(f), KE=1/2mΔv^2, p=J=mgh=mv

The Attempt at a Solution

. (A and B) i started out with my p(0)=p(f), but i have two unknown velocities so iam not sure where to go from there?
i think for C, i can just use the found velocities to find the change in KE. For the last one i know that h=l-lcos(theta) so i plugged that into mgh=mv.
thanks for help!
 
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hi omc1! :smile:

according to your title, this is an elastic collision (for parts A-C),

so you can use conservation of energy as well as the usual conservation of (angular) momentum :wink:
 
hi,
so when I do p0+k0=pf+kf, I get that velocity initial equals velocity final, but I am not sure what the height is? I thought that it would be 0 for initial and finial??
 
omc1 said:
I get that velocity initial equals velocity final

how can that be?? :confused:

we don't seem to be talking about the same question :redface:
 
this is a dumb question but how to I find theta for this problem to solve for the h that herman goes. because I only know the length L.
 
tiny-tim said:
how can that be?? :confused:

we don't seem to be talking about the same question :redface:

so when I try to find the velocity of the ball, i did 1/2mv^2+mh=1/2mv^2+mgh
but i didnth this that the ball had a height?
for the velocity of herman I know he had a final height...L-Lcostheata. but I don't know how to get theta because i only have the length of the one side...
 
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