Finding Volume of Solid: Isosceles Right Triangle Cross-Sections

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The problem involves finding the volume of a solid whose base is defined by the disk x² + y² ≤ 4. The cross-sections perpendicular to the y-axis are isosceles right triangles, with one leg lying within the disk. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the correct approach to calculate the area of these triangular cross-sections compared to treating them as squares.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the volume by first treating the cross-sections as squares and then adjusting for the triangular shape. They question how to determine the base and height of the isosceles right triangles. Other participants provide feedback on the calculations and suggest reconsidering the area formula used for the triangles.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants affirming the original poster's calculations while others point out potential misunderstandings in the area formulation for the triangular cross-sections. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the need for exact answers in certain contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of calculating areas for different shapes and the implications of approximating answers versus providing exact values. The original poster's confusion stems from the transition between square and triangular cross-section calculations.

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Hi, I'm still practicing how to find volume.

1. My problem is this:

"Find the volume of the solid described below:

The base of the solid is the disk x^2 + y^2 ≤ 4. The cross-sections by planes perpendicular to the y-axis between y=-2 and y=2 are isosceles right triangles with one leg in the disk."
2. I thought that since an isosceles right triangle is really just half of a square, I could appraoch this problem like every cross-section was a square and divide the volume in half at the end...

Using this method I have:

A = s^2

A= (2√(4-y^2))^2

A= 4(4-y^2)

A= 16 - 4y^2

This is the area if every cross-section was a square.V= 1/2 * 2 ∫0 to 2 of 16 - 4y^2 (The 1/2 on the outside is there because we need to find half of the volume to end up with isosceles right triangle cross-sections. The 2 is there because I changed the limits from -2 to 2 instead to 0 to 2.)

V= ∫0 to 2 of 16 - 4y^2

= 16y - 4*(y^3/3) |0 to 2

= 16(2) - 4*[(2)^3)/3]

= 32 - 10.67

= 21.33

But this is the wrong answer... Why is it wrong, though?

I avoided having to think about the cross-sections as triangles, because the area formula for that is:
1/2(b*h)

I am confused as to what to plug in for the b and h...
I know for an isoscleses right triangle, h = 1/2b
Would b = sqrt(-y^2 + 4)...?
And so Area= 1/2[sqrt(-y^2 + 4) * (1/2(sqrt(-y^2 + 4)))]

...I really don't know here. That's why I avoided triangles!
Please help!
Thank you VERY much! :)
 
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What makes you think the answer is wrong? Everything you have done is correct, although I would prefer you leave the answer as 32- 32/3= (96- 32)/3= 64/3, the exact answer, rather than 21.33, an approximate answer.
 


Lo.Lee.Ta. said:
A= (2√(4-y^2))^2
Not quite. Think that through again.
 


@haruspex- I still don't see why that would be wrong...

Wouldn't each side be (2*(√4 - y^2))^2 ~ a (√(4 - y^2)) for the top part of the circle and a (√(4 - y^2)) for the bottom part of the circle?
 


Maybe I have it wrong, but I thought that the x value, √(4 - y^2), would be half a diagonal of the complete square.
 


Oh, okay. Thanks for responding! :)
 


haruspex said:
Maybe I have it wrong, but I thought that the x value, √(4 - y^2), would be half a diagonal of the complete square.

Right. It said a leg of the isoceles triangle is in the disk. If you are dealing with an online grading system it might want the exact answer as a fraction instead of a decimal approximation as Halls pointed out.
 

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