Fine tuning a cylindrical Capacitor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the fine tuning of a cylindrical capacitor used in an airplane fuel gauging probe. Participants explore methods to achieve precise capacitance measurements, particularly focusing on achieving 2nd digit accuracy in the context of varying lengths and diameters of the capacitor tubes.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Mike introduces the topic, specifying the dimensions and capacitance range of the cylindrical capacitor used in the fuel gauging probe.
  • One participant suggests connecting a variable capacitor in parallel that can be tuned with a screwdriver to achieve the desired fine tuning.
  • Another participant questions the types of errors that need to be addressed, including whether they are related to dry capacitance offsets, liquid-dependent non-linearities, or manufacturing variations. They propose using a calibration table stored in non-volatile memory and suggest using a microcontroller or logic device for accurate output data.
  • The same participant notes potential non-linearities in capacitance changes during different stages of liquid filling, emphasizing the need for calibration to account for these variations.
  • The suggestion to use a variable capacitor is reiterated, with Mike expressing confidence in his ability to implement this solution despite not being an electrical engineer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to fine tuning the capacitor, with some advocating for the use of a variable capacitor while others emphasize the importance of calibration and addressing non-linearities. There is no consensus on the best method or the specific errors to be corrected.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the types of errors to be tuned out, and there are unresolved questions regarding the measurement and output/display methods for capacitance data. The discussion also reflects varying levels of expertise among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electrical engineering, particularly those working with capacitive sensors, calibration methods, and non-linear data processing in practical applications.

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I would like to know about fine tuning of an airplane Fuel Gauging probe. It is basically a cylindrical capacitor made of an inner composite tube of about 0.5 inch diameter and an outer composite tube of about 1 inch diameter. The length of the tubes varies from about 3 inches to 8 inches. The dry capacitance range is between 9.00 pF to 24.00 pF. We need to fine it to 2nd digit accuracy.

Thanks.

Mike
 
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Just connect in parallel another variable capacitor you can tune with a screw driver.
 
What kind of errors do you want to be able to tune out? Is it just an offset in the dry capacitance as what suggests? Or is it errors and non-linearities dependent on the amount of liquid? And/or is it errors due to manufacturing variations unit-to-unit? What is used to measure the capacitance, and what is used to output/display the data?

The general way you deal with this kind of problem is to do a calibration table for each unit, and store it in non-volatile memory of some kind. Then a microcontroller (uC) or logic device (like a CPLD or FPGA) can be used to convert the raw capacitance data to the very accurate output data.

For example, I'd bet that the delta-C per delta-V is different for the initial part of the fill and the end of the fill, versus volume changes in the middle of the fill (due to the fringe effect in the cylindrical parallel plate capacitor arrangement). That non-linearity is likely several percent, and would need to be calibrated out. The easiest way is via a digital table as I mentioned; the harder way is via analog compensation circuitry (which you wouldn't be able to tune for each production unit, for example).
 
what said:
Just connect in parallel another variable capacitor you can tune with a screw driver.
Thank you.
I am not an electrical engineer but I should be able to do this!

Mike
 

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