How Can I Mimic the Best Fit for HD17156b's Radial Velocity Data?

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The discussion focuses on finding a best fit equation for the radial velocity data of the exoplanet HD17156b, referencing a specific paper for fit parameters. The original fitting achieved a normalized Chi squared value of 1.17, but the user struggles to replicate this fit, suspecting that non-linear equations and errors in fit parameters are causing discrepancies. Suggestions include avoiding maximum likelihood fitting due to its potential pitfalls and exploring alternative methods like Markov Chain Monte Carlo for better parameter space mapping. Additionally, recommendations for mathematical models such as Lorentz functions or damped sine series are provided, along with a curve-fitting program for data analysis. The conversation emphasizes the complexity of fitting non-linear data and the importance of exploring various fitting techniques.
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Hi all,
At the moment I am trying to find a best fit equation to radial velocity data vs. time of a planet HD17156b. The paper with the Authors fit parameters (I am trying to mimic the fit) has the arXiv ref number of :0704.1191v2
From this paper I extract their data, which is on the final few pages and take note of their fit parameters.
I use the relevant equations to make a continuous curve using there fit parameters. They say in the paper they achieve a fit with a normalised Chi squared value = 1.17
When I plot the data, and the continuous curve I note that the fit is definitely not close to 1. I believe this is because of the nature of the equations used are highly non-linear and the error in their fit parameters are throwing off the continuous curve.
When I try to find a best fit using the Newton-Raphson method in conjunction with the Levenberg-Marquardt Algorithm I use their best fit parameters as my initial starting point. Assuming surely this would find a good fit to the data. But I achieve a horrible fit. Anybody have any ideas that could help me achieve a better fit similar to the original Authors fit?
Below is a plot of the original Data and the Authors best fit parameters leading to the continuous curve on the plot.
 

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It sounds like you are using a 'downhill' maximum likelyhood (aka 'best fit') method. In the case of a real parameter space, with real noisy data and, as you say, non-linear equations, it is quite possible that the parameter space (i.e. Chi squared as a function of the fit parameters) is not a smooth function with a single global minima. You may be stuck in a local minima, like rolling a marble down a rocky slope and the marble gets stuck in a hole before it reaches the bottom.

Maximum likelyhood fitting is IMHO a bad idea. It works sometimes but you never know in advance when it will and when it will not. A better approach is to map the parameter space and see how the solution behaves. The most general approach is a Markov Chain Monte Carlo random walk through the parameter space.

Rather than losing it in the re-telling, have a look at http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2005ApJ...631.1198G" paper. It is a marvelous case study into the pitfalls of maximum likelyhood fitting of extrasolar planet data. It shows that the maximum likelyhood fit of Tinney et al. 2003 for the same data was actually the least likely of 3 possible orbits. I would suggest reading this paper, and others by the same author, and implementing the kind of fitting algorithm they use.
 
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Thanks Wallace I will have a look! :approve:
 
Hmm, actually I think the paper I described is a different one, though by the same author. I think it is Gregory 2005a that is mentioned in the second paragraph of the paper I linked to. It might be better to read that one first since the one I linked I think is an extension. In any case that paper should still be very useful, but the actual algorithm is probably described in more detail elsewhere. Play follow the citations and you should find it!
 
Is there an arXiv's link to the first one. I found it on the Chicago Journals website but that requires a subscription.
Also could you list some texts that may be of some use too. Cheers
 
If you search on ADS by a known title and author it will give you a link to the arxiv version of a paper.
 
What math models have you or others tried on these data points?

A Lorentz function or damped sine series might do a good job. There is a curve-fit program named http://www.digitalCalculus.com/demo/curvfit.html" that has these and other math models to fit ones data.
 
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