'flat' field spectrograph and optcs focusing

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The discussion centers around the concept of 'flat' field spectrographs, exploring their naming, functionality, and the optical principles involved in focusing rays from point sources. It includes technical explanations and inquiries about optical aberrations and grating modifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that 'flat' field spectrographs are named for their nearly flat image plane, which allows for the use of flat detector arrays.
  • Concave gratings are noted to reduce the number of optical elements needed but are associated with significant astigmatism and coma.
  • There is a question about whether using flat gratings with concave mirrors would also suffer from astigmatism and coma, and which configuration is preferable.
  • Participants inquire about the modification of groove shapes in gratings to reduce aberrations, seeking clarification on what shapes might be better.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the focusing of a single ray, indicating a need for further explanation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the optimal configurations for gratings and mirrors, and there are competing views regarding the effectiveness of different optical setups.

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The discussion includes unresolved questions about the specific modifications to grating groove shapes and the implications of using different types of gratings in conjunction with mirrors.

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why call 'flat' field spectrograph ? what does the meaning of 'flat'. another question: if I what to focus the ray from a point source, how to do it?
anything help would be highly aprreciated.
best wishes and thank you!
 
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Flat-field spectrographs are so-named because the 'image' plane (the surface conjugate to the entrance slit) is flat, or nearly flat, enabling use of a flat detector array. Recall, spectrographs generally use concave gratings (that is, a reflective grating in the shape of a concave spherical surface) to reduce the number of optical elements required to image the spectrum. Concave gratings suffer from large amounts of astigmatism and coma. By modifying the groove shape, aberrations are reduced.

I don't understand your second question: you cannot focus a single ray.
 
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Andy Resnick said:
Flat-field spectrographs are so-named because the 'image' plane (the surface conjugate to the entrance slit) is flat, or nearly flat, enabling use of a flat detector array. Recall, spectrographs generally use concave gratings (that is, a reflective grating in the shape of a concave spherical surface) to reduce the number of optical elements required to image the spectrum. Concave gratings suffer from large amounts of astigmatism and coma. By modifying the groove shape, aberrations are reduced.

I don't understand your second question: you cannot focus a single ray.
THANK your for your answer! IF I use flat gratings and concave mirror,does this suffer from large amounts of astigmatism and coma? which is better between concave gratings. and how to modify the
groove shape, what kind of shape is better? THANK YOU again!
best wishes!
 
There is no single optimal solution to your question. I recommend reading the 'Diffraction Grating Handbook', freely available online, for a complete discussion.
 

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