Flow Separation of Airfoil in terms of Reynolds Number

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the role of Reynolds number (Re) in flow separation of airfoils and other objects, such as plates, spheres, and cylinders. Participants explore how Re influences stall characteristics, separation phenomena, and the behavior of laminar versus turbulent flows.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that flow separation is primarily influenced by the pressure gradient over the surface rather than the Reynolds number.
  • Others argue that the Reynolds number significantly affects the stall characteristics of airfoils, noting that changes in Re can lead to substantial variations in maximum lift coefficient and stalling angle of attack.
  • It is proposed that at low Reynolds numbers, laminar separation bubbles can form, which may disappear at higher Re, leading to different stall behaviors.
  • Some participants highlight that turbulent flows are generally more resistant to separation, which can delay stall but also increase drag.
  • There is a discussion about the boundary layer's state (laminar or turbulent) being crucial for separation, with some asserting that the transition between these states is dependent on Reynolds number.
  • Concerns are raised about the complexity of connecting free-stream turbulence to boundary layer behavior and the challenges in predicting transition and separation points.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between Reynolds number and flow separation. Multiple competing views are presented, with some emphasizing the importance of Re while others downplay its significance in favor of boundary layer characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the complexity of boundary layer behavior, dependence on specific geometries, and the influence of surface conditions. The discussion acknowledges that the effects of Reynolds number can vary widely based on the context and specific flow conditions.

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RandomGuy88 said:
Not necessarily. The separation point depends on the state of the boundary layer which depends on the Reynolds number. Increasing the Reynolds number from 10^3 to 10^7 will almost certainly change where the flow separates on an airfoil, because the state of the boundary layer will change. The transition point may move or the laminar separation bubble will no longer form and the flow will separate at the trailing edge instead. Keep in mind you can change the Reynolds number and the separation point may not change, it all depends on how the change in Reynolds number influences the boundary layer. And over a range as large as that it will likely change quite a bit. And of course to make things more complicated all of this depends on geometry and surface quality and various other factors. The same increase in Reynolds may dramatically effect the performance of one airfoil but not change it at all for another.

Boneh3ad mentioned that the flows in this range are fundamentally the same which is true. They are both dominated by inertial forces but that does not mean the details of the flow are the same.

Hi thanks very much for the response

Am I correct in saying that one can see separation point changing with Re in real life but such an effect is not due to the change in Re but other changes that are typically associated with flows as Re increases (assuming flow is in the laminar region), thus there is actually no theoretical relationship but only a correlative effect? Also, in the instance you described, is there a "typical" direction in which flow separation point moves?

Thanks very much
 
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