Fluid mechanics: defition of shear flow [rate of deformation tensor]

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "shear flow" in fluid mechanics, specifically in relation to the rate of deformation tensor and its off-diagonal elements. Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of these concepts in the context of a velocity field described by trigonometric functions.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of "off-diagonal elements" in the context of the rate of deformation tensor and how it relates to the given velocity field.
  • Another participant explains that the components of the rate of deformation tensor can be represented in a 3x3 matrix, where the diagonal elements correspond to the partial derivatives of velocity components.
  • A claim is made that if the diagonal elements of the rate of deformation tensor are zero, the flow is classified as pure shear flow.
  • It is noted that the rate of deformation tensor is not specifically tied to trigonometric functions, although these functions may appear in specific flow scenarios.
  • A participant provides guidance on using formatting tools for mathematical notation in forum posts, but this is separate from the technical discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the interpretation of shear flow and the implications of the off-diagonal elements in the context of the provided velocity field. Multiple viewpoints and clarifications are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of shear flow and the rate of deformation tensor, which may depend on specific contexts or interpretations. The relationship between trigonometric functions and the tensor's elements remains unresolved.

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fluid mechanics: defition of "shear flow" [rate of deformation tensor]

I'm studying old undergraduate chemical engineering notes for an exam in grad school. Can't recall what this really means, can anyone explain to me what "off-diagonal elements" means and why the trig function velocities would be or not be "off-diagonal elements". And can you explain what the question is talking about in general.

Problem statement: Consider the velocity field u = ([/x],[/y],[/z]), where: [/x](x,y,z)=constant*y*z*sin(constant*x)...(similar functions for y and z velocities)

and question: "Recall that the definition of "shear flow" is one for which the rate of deformation tensor [Δ][/ij] has only off-diagonal elements. Is this shear flow?" (y or n)
 
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And those are velocities like u (sub x,y,z) just in each direction. Not sure how to write the notation in the posts
 


If you are a chemical engineer, your first step should be to go back to Bird, Stewart, and Lightfoot, and look up the definition of the rate of deformation tensor. The components of the rate of deformation tensor in cartesian coordinates can be arranged in a 3x3 matrix. The diagonal elements of this matrix are equal to the partial derivatives of the three velocity components with respect to distance in the coordinate direction of the velocity components. If these three components of the matrix are equal to zero, the flow is considered to be a pure shear flow. The rate of deformation tensor does not specifically relate to the trigonometric functions, although, for a particular flow in which the spatial variation of the velocity components are expressed in terms of the trigonometric functions, they will of course come into play.
 


Welcome to Physics Forums, KD215.

As regards to your queries about posting in the forum, you have obviously noticed the quick symbols on the right of the edit box.

Have you also seen the formatting option icons on the toolbar above the box?

Subscript and superscript can be accessed from the X2 and X2 icons.

A wider range of maths and other symbols are available by clicking on the Ʃ at the end.

This forum recognises a form of typographical language or input called LaTex. You access this in a wisywig mode by obtainign a free or commercial program to enter it directly.
I (try to) use Mathtype.

As regards the technical part of your question. There are several mechanical properties that have the principal or normal property as diagonal elements of their matrix or tensor and other properties (parallel or cross products) as off diagonal. Examples as Inertia, stress, strain, displacement.
 

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