Football freaks only - Which league is the best?

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The discussion centers around which football league has the strongest average team, with participants predominantly favoring the Premier League and La Liga. Many contributors assert that the Premier League boasts higher overall quality, citing its competitive nature and depth of talent. Others argue that La Liga, with its historically strong teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid, presents a more technically skilled competition. The debate touches on the perceived physicality of English teams versus the technical prowess of Spanish teams, with references to UEFA rankings and the performance of clubs in European competitions. Participants also humorously engage in comparing football (soccer) and American football, highlighting cultural differences in terminology and gameplay. The conversation reflects a mix of personal biases, regional pride, and statistical references, ultimately underscoring the ongoing rivalry between these two prominent leagues.

Which football league is the best?


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premier league of course...:-)
 
Premier League...
 
Sweden...
 
NOT Belgian League for sure. I am conviced that George five days before his death, was still a better socer player than 95% of the losers we have walking about the Belgian green fields.

i go with Premier League
 
With the Colts and the Bungles it's definitely the AFC. I'm still not sold on the Seahawks.
 
With the Colts and the Bungles it's definitely the AFC. I'm still not sold on the Seahawks.

ehh?? I hope you are joking
 
La Liga nad Premier League(because of Liverpool and its Spaniards)! :cool:
 
NOT Belgian League for sure. I am conviced that George five days before his death, was still a better socer player than 95% of the losers we have walking about the Belgian green fields.

LOL.. actually historically Anderlech was a very good team in europe
 
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But now they seem to loose "chippen". How will they win anything without him...:-p
Swedish reading exercise:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,745951,00.html
 
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  • #11
Premiere league. GO Man UTd!
 
  • #12
I think the teams in the premiership are in general of a lot higher quality but La liga is a close second, it is quite a close season so far in spain.
 
  • #13
So EL.. when you going to eat your hat :-)

hehe

Actually I'll let you off since your best player (ever?) was playing for Celtic and was rather good :-) bit old now tho, but in his hay day was a a scoring machine.. 242 goals in 315 games.. not bad in any division, shame about 2003 tho :(
 
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LeBrad said:
With the Colts and the Bungles it's definitely the AFC. I'm still not sold on the Seahawks.

I was wondering how long that would take.

Its totally the NFC.

What other league has Vikings as the premiere choke artists?
 
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Actually I'll let you off since your best player (ever?) was playing for Celtic and was rather good :-) bit old now tho, but in his hay day was a a scoring machine.. 242 goals in 315 games.. not bad in any division, shame about 2003 tho :(

The scottish league is crap, larsson was pretty good though.
 
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Yeah, Peyton and Dungy are hotties, but it's totally the NFC. I mean, we have the Barber twins and the yonger Manning. And everyone knows the younger brothers are way hotter. So what is everyone else talking about? Succer?
 
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honestrosewater said:
Yeah, Peyton and Dungy are hotties, but it's totally the NFC. I mean, we have the Barber twins and the yonger Manning. And everyone knows the younger brothers are way hotter. So what is everyone else talking about? Succer?

I dunno, but its not football :biggrin:
 
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franznietzsche said:
I dunno, but its not football :biggrin:
I bet they aren't insomniacs either. We could so easily steal this thread and make it about real sports like frisbee or beer pong.
 
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honestrosewater said:
I bet they aren't insomniacs either. We could so easily steal this thread and make it about real sports like frisbee or beer pong.


Oooooh! I love beer pong. Play with guinness. MMM. Good times. Or play with my personal hard lemonade that consists of 1 part vodka to 3 parts lemonade (I don't want to die from beer pong afterall, otherwise it'd be 1-1). Good stuff.
 
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honestrosewater said:
I bet they aren't insomniacs either.

No, but they are spread over a lot of countries :smile: .

When you compare Association football and American football, it is easy to notice that
(i) Injuries are much more probable in American football
(ii) American football is much more expensive
(iii) It's too violent (reminds me of fully armoured tanks battling)

Besides,
you have a ball and you play with your feet, so football.
I wonder why Americans call American football as football :confused:?
From what I have seen most of the passing and running is done with the ball in the hands. Handball would have been a better name.
 
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siddharth said:
No, but they are spread over a lot of countries.
When you compare Association football and American football, it is easy to notice that
(i) Injuries are much more probable in American football
(ii) American football is much more expensive
(iii) It's too violent (reminds me of fully armoured tanks battling)
Besides,
you have a ball and you play with your feet, so football.
I wonder why Americans call American football as football :confused:?
From what I have seen most of the passing and running is done with the ball in the hands. Handball would have been a better name.


i) Yeah, nothing like getting pummeled by 300 lbs(140kg) of linebacker.
ii)Meh, we're gluttonous and wasteful on every other level anyway
iii) Mind you, I'm a rabid Ice Hockey fan. American football is nothing. The Canucks will tell you as much, I'm sure.

As to why its called football, I think it has more to do with the elongated ball. Beyond that, I have no idea.
 
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Huh huh... you said elongated balls.
 
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honestrosewater said:
Huh huh... you said elongated balls.


Well...you know...yeah...:rolleyes:
 
  • #24
franznietzsche said:
Well...you know...yeah...:rolleyes:
Meh, I guess it's not the worst thing you could have done with them.

So what should the two sports be called? Handball is no good -- in fact, hand anything is no good. Suggestions? Something ball...
 
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honestrosewater said:
Meh, I guess it's not the worst thing you could have done with them.
So what should the two sports be called? Handball is no good -- in fact, hand anything is no good. Suggestions? Something ball...


Handball is definitely too tribdog-ish.

Ballhand? Ballfoot? BallSmash? Murder Ball? Mutilation Ball? I got it! ELONGATED BALL Huh? Huh?? Whaddya think?
 
  • #26
I think this still-of-the-night-thread-stealing stuff is harder than I remember.
 
  • #27
honestrosewater said:
I think this still-of-the-night-thread-stealing stuff is harder than I remember.


Well the alternative is sleep. Sleep is great. But when I sleep, I dream. And my dreams are great. Which leads to me waking up and realizing that they're only dreams, and that's all they'll ever be. And that part is not so great.
 
  • #28
Premier and Liverpool of course.
 
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franznietzsche said:
Well the alternative is sleep. Sleep is great. But when I sleep, I dream. And my dreams are great. Which leads to me waking up and realizing that they're only dreams, and that's all they'll ever be. And that part is not so great.
Aww, you want to talk about it? If so, I suggest you go somewhere where someone wants to listen. :-p
Okay, I kinda like Murderball, but it's not quite tough enough. Maybe Killball. Or why don't we call non-American football Footyball?
 
  • #30
I think American Rugby is a better name.
 
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siddharth said:
I think American Rugby is a better name.
Ooh, Rugbyball. Nice. :approve:
So what is so great about (non-American) football? Other than getting to scream "Score!" a lot. Oh, or is it "Goal!"?
 
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siddharth said:
I think American Rugby is a better name.

Yup they are too afraid to play real rugby.They have to wear armor.
 
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honestrosewater said:
Ooh, Rugbyball. Nice. :approve:
So what is so great about (non-American) football? Other than getting to scream "Score!" a lot. Oh, or is it "Goal!"?

Football(ie, the one you play with the feet) is nice to play and the rules are very simple (except the offside rule). Very little equipment is required.
It's also a free-flowing game and exciting to watch.
Besides, you can scream anything as long as the ref doesn't hear it.
 
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CFL rules are better than the NFL.
 
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Okay, football sounds like it might be cool. And I thought of the perfect name for American football: F-[/color]ball[/color][/size]. I think it'll catch on.
 
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neurocomp2003 said:
CFL rules are better than the NFL.
Canada has something like F-ball? Seriously?
 
  • #37
The NFC? The AFC? Please, there are no better leagues this year, it is just the Colts and The Rest.

The Giants suck, they barely beat the Eagles, the Bears have always sucked, they just have a good record, same for the Panthers, I guess the only team in the NFC that has been good lately is the Seahawks, the Vikings have won 6 straight, but let's see how they finish.

Now for the AFC. The Broncos suck, they barely beat the Ravens, the Bengals suck, they barely beat the Browns, the Chiefs lost to Dallas, the Chargers lost to Miami, the Jags got smoked again, not as bad as last time though, by the Colts.

I am going to say Seahawks vs Colts in the Superbowl, and the Colts Win by 14 or more.
 
  • #38
This thread is about Football.. not American Football! please stay on topic..:-p
 
  • #39
Well what you call Football, we call European Football, or soccer. And what you call American Football we call Football :smile:
 
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honestrosewater said:
Canada has something like F-ball? Seriously?
Yes, the Candian Football League even had teams in Shreveport, LA, a team in Tennesse (I think it was in Memphis), Birmingham, plus the most infamous team of all: The Baltimore CFL Colts. The Indianapolis Colts, which once were located in Baltimore, but moved to Indianapolis in the middle of the night, sued the CFL Colts to force them to quit using the Colts name (this was before Modell packed up and moved his Browns from Cleveland to Baltimore). The NFL Colts won their case in the middle of the CFL season, so the Baltimore CFL team played the rest of the season (and the next) with no name, but still kept the horse logo on their helmets. ESPN suddenly started showing CFL highlights just so Chris Berman could talk about the CFL Baltimore Horse With No Name. :smile:

I think the CFL had some teams in Canada, as well, but I'm not positive about that.
 
  • #41
Well what you call Football, we call European Football, or soccer. And what you call American Football we call Football
By 'you' do you mean everyone else on the planet? :rolleyes: ppftt...
 
  • #42
Premier League is definitely the best followed by La Liga...
 
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siddharth said:
Football(ie, the one you play with the feet) is nice to play and the rules are very simple (except the offside rule). Very little equipment is required.
It's also a free-flowing game and exciting to watch.
Besides, you can scream anything as long as the ref doesn't hear it.
What in the world is complicated about the offside law? I've never understood why people have so much trouble understanding it. The laws on the goalkeeper handling the ball are much more complicated, if only because they keep changing the law.

I remember in one of the local leagues both teams botched this up in the same game by first passing the ball back to their own goalkeeper who picked it up, then throwing the ball into the goal keeper who picked it up. About half time, a late arriving player showed up for one of the teams - first time he had a chance to throw the ball in, he called for the keeper, who responded "Freeze! Put the ball down! Put the ball the down and move away slowly!" The poor guy looked crushed as he bewilderedly set the ball gently on the ground and slowly backed away.

The other thing that baffled me about this game was the players all had small balls. Between about 30 players, they had one size five ball, which they kicked into a creek 30 seconds after the start of the game (there was incredibly strong wind that day), and about four or five dozen size four balls - I think half the players in that game coached youth soccer, which made ignorance of the law changes even more inexusable.
 
  • #44
Premier League is definitely the best...GO CHELSEA...:wink:
 
  • #45
Which league has the cutest players?
 
  • #46
arildno said:
Which league has the cutest players?
La liga! And also Liverpool has a very cute spaniard.:blushing:
 
  • #47
Lisa! said:
La liga! And also Liverpool has a very cute spaniard.:blushing:
Spaniards tend to be cute. :approve:
 
  • #48
arildno said:
Which league has the cutest players?
The WUSA had a few nice looking players. And they had some pretty entertaining games, as well. With the increased athletic ability of modern times, I think soccer fields are more appropriately sized for women than for men. A little more open field makes for some better team play.

You see the same thing in hockey. The larger international rinks make for better games than in the cramped NHL rinks.
 
  • #49
BobG said:
The WUSA had a few nice looking players.
Hmm..is that because most women athletes are titless? :confused:
 
  • #50
BobG said:
What in the world is complicated about the offside law? I've never understood why people have so much trouble understanding it.

The offside situation by itself is not that complicated. What makes it complicated is the "active play" part, by which an offense is commited only when the player in the offside position is interfering with play or interfering with an opponent or gaining an advantage by being in that position.
There are a lot of ways this part can be interpreted and can lead to a lot of confusion.
 
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