Force of Gravitation, Determining dM

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The discussion focuses on the varying expressions for dM in gravitational problems involving different geometries, such as rods and semi-circles. Participants note that the method of analysis depends on the object's shape, with thin rods best analyzed using Cartesian coordinates and circular shapes using polar coordinates. A user seeks clarification on deriving gravitational field components for a thin rod, struggling with the relationship between variables in their integral expression. The complexity of identifying a universal pattern for dM is acknowledged, emphasizing the need for experience in selecting appropriate analytical methods. Ultimately, understanding the geometry of the object is crucial for correctly determining dM.
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Homework Statement


After doing some general solution problems for the force of gravitation on various objects (rods, thin rings, semi-circles, etc), I have noticed that dM varies drastically. For instance on a rod, dM=(M/L)dr while for a semi-circle its (M/2*pi*r)*Rd(theta). I was not able to identify a pattern for determining dM. Can someone help?

Homework Equations


F=Gm1m2/r^2 and F=Gmdm/r^2[/B]
dM=...

The Attempt at a Solution



Was not able to identify a pattern[/B]
 
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TimeInquirer said:

Homework Statement


After doing some general solution problems for the force of gravitation on various objects (rods, thin rings, semi-circles, etc), I have noticed that dM varies drastically. For instance on a rod, dM=(M/L)dr while for a semi-circle its (M/2*pi*r)*Rd(theta). I was not able to identify a pattern for determining dM. Can someone help?

Homework Equations


F=Gm1m2/r^2 and F=Gmdm/r^2[/B]
dM=...

The Attempt at a Solution



Was not able to identify a pattern[/B]
Why do you think there is some pattern to identifying dM?

The objects which you mentioned in the OP all have different geometries, and there is no one method which will easily treat them all. For instance, thin rods are best analyzed using cartesian coordinates; circular disks are probably handled easier by using polar coordinates.

You work problems like these to help you develop some experience in selecting the proper method of analysis.
 
Considering what you said, do you mind determining if my analysis of this problem is correct? A thin rod of length 2a has uniform density. The rod is centered at the origin along the x axis. Write an integral expression for the x and y components of the gravitational field at the point (x, y, 0). I can't seem to able to related cos(theta)dx/r^2 where I boxed it in on my paper. Look at top left for a picture.
 

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TimeInquirer said:
Considering what you said, do you mind determining if my analysis of this problem is correct? A thin rod of length 2a has uniform density. The rod is centered at the origin along the x axis. Write an integral expression for the x and y components of the gravitational field at the point (x, y, 0). I can't seem to able to related cos(theta)dx/r^2 where I boxed it in on my paper. Look at top left for a picture.

In the problem from the attached post, you are trying to determine the effect of gravity on the rod, I think, w.r.t. the point (a,b), but it's not entirely clear from your description.
 
It is with respect to the rod
 
w.r.t. = with respect to
 
Sorry, just got it. What do you suggest then?
 
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