Forces at an angle to one another.

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The problem involves a particle of mass 2kg subjected to two forces of 12N and 8N acting at an angle of 60 degrees to each other. The objective is to determine the magnitude of the particle's acceleration and its direction relative to the 12N force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss decomposing the forces into vector components and summing them to find the resultant force. There is uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the direction relative to the 12N force. Some suggest using Pythagoras' theorem to find total forces along and perpendicular to the 12N direction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods for resolving the forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the decomposition of forces, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach or method to use.

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Participants express confusion regarding the vector representation and the implications of the angle between the forces. There is a lack of clarity on how to visualize the problem and the relationship between the forces.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass 2kg is moving under the action of two forces. They
are of magnitudes 12N and 8N, acting at an angle of 60 
to each other. Find
the magnitude of the acceleration of the particle and its direction relative to the
direction of the 12N force.


Homework Equations


F = ma.


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that this isn't actually a tricky problem but I can't seem to think it out properly.
Am I correct in decomposing both the 12N and 8N forces into vector form, i.e. 12cos60i = 12sin60j and 8cos60i + 8sin60j respectively. Then summing them and calculating both the magnitude and direction using tanθ = vj/vx. Is this correct? I'm sort of confused by the whole "relative to the 12N force" part. Thanks.
 
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I think for this problem, assume the direction of the 12N force is a convenient reference, say F = (12, 0) N, so that this force acts in the positive x-direction. Then, the 8N force acts in a direction such that the angle with F is 60 degrees. Then, you can decompose into components and find the resultant before figuring the effect on the particle. In the OP, you had both force vectors heading in the same direction.
 
I don't really know what you're doing with is vector thing. I believe the best way to solve this would be to find the total force in the direction along the 12N, and the total force perpendicular to it. Then use Pythagoras' theorem.
 
SteamKing said:
I think for this problem, assume the direction of the 12N force is a convenient reference, say F = (12, 0) N, so that this force acts in the positive x-direction. Then, the 8N force acts in a direction such that the angle with F is 60 degrees. Then, you can decompose into components and find the resultant before figuring the effect on the particle. In the OP, you had both force vectors heading in the same direction.

I understand what you're saying. Sounds correct to me like. Thanks.
 
Saxby said:
I don't really know what you're doing with is vector thing. I believe the best way to solve this would be to find the total force in the direction along the 12N, and the total force perpendicular to it. Then use Pythagoras' theorem.

I'm not too sure what you have in mind. I can't think of anyway to solve this without the use of vectors. I'm struggling to visualise what you have in mind.
 

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