Forces - calculating the net force

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The discussion focuses on calculating the net force from two vectors: 32.0 N in the +z direction and 38.0 N in the x-y plane. The correct angle between the two forces is determined to be 125 degrees, leading to a resultant force calculated using the cosine law. The final net force is approximately 32.9 N at an angle of 72 degrees North of East. The participants clarify the use of the sine and cosine laws to resolve the forces accurately.

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  • #31
alexandria said:
@The Vinh
i am aware that using Coordinates system axis is easier, however the lesson that i am doing requires that i learn their method, and it involves the cosine law etc..
they don't provide any other ways to solve and they are expecting me to solve it using their method.
Oh, ok, so if you must use it then magnitude and angle are easy to find but the real problem is the direction of net force.
 
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  • #32
Oh and you have a really " cool " teacher
 
  • #33
alexandria said:
what do you mean?
You quote the sine formula, but you did not say which angle in the picture is the A in the formula.
It needs to be opposite the side you divide the sine by.
Which angle do you need to find to answer the question?
 
  • #34
@haruspex
upload_2016-3-14_23-56-56.png

This was the previous diagram i had made, it forms a triangle instead of a parallelogram. I labelled angle A .
SinA / 38.0 N = Sin55° /32.9 N
 
  • #35
alexandria said:
SinA / 38.0 N = Sin55° /32.9 N
Yes, that looks good.
 
  • #36
Ok so here is my final answer38.

c = (a^2 + b^2 – 2abcosC) ½

c = ([32.0 N]^2 + [38.0 N]^2 - 2[32.0 N] x [38.0 N]cos55°) ½

c = 32.9 NSinA/a = SinB/b = SinC/c

SinA / 38.0 N = Sin55° /32.9 N

A = 72 degrees (approx.)

net force = 32.9 N (North 72 degrees East)

does this look right?
 
  • #37
alexandria said:
(North 72 degrees East)
Draw that direction on your diagram. Does it look right?
 
  • #38
is the correct direction (East 72 degrees North)
 
  • #39
alexandria said:
is the correct direction (East 72 degrees North)
I didn't say your answer was wrong, just asked if it looked reasonable. You should always check that where possible.
 
  • #40
oh, ok, so i based the direction of this diagram.
upload_2016-3-15_0-37-51.png

the force is pulling the object 72 degrees east of north
 
  • #41
alexandria said:
oh, ok, so i based the direction of this diagram.
View attachment 97361
the force is pulling the object 72 degrees east of north
Ok!
 
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  • #42
thank you so much for your help, i really appreciate it :)
 

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