Forces in Equilibrium (Vectors)

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The discussion revolves around solving a vector statics problem related to forces in equilibrium. The user, Oblivion77, has set up the equations for the sum of forces in the x and y directions but is unsure how to proceed. A suggestion is made to isolate the cosine and sine components, square them, and use the identity cos² + sin² = 1 to express F3 in terms of F1. The minimum value of F3 is determined to be 137/2 when the angle α is 90 degrees, leading to a calculation for F1. The conversation highlights the collaborative nature of problem-solving in engineering contexts.
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Hey guys, I am stuck on this question. It is first year engineering vector statics. Here it is.

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Thanks for any help!
 
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Oblivion77 said:
Hey guys, I am stuck on this question. It is first year engineering vector statics. Here it is.

2vilgk7.jpg


Thanks for any help!

Hi Oblivion77! :smile:

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help. :smile:
 
Well, i resolved the vectors into the components and added the sums and equaled them to zero (since its in equilibrium)

\Sigma Fx = -118.65 -F3Cos[\alpha] + F1 =0

\Sigma Fy = 68.5 - F3Sin[\alpha] = 0

I don't know how to go from here, with the "minimum"
 
Hi Oblivion77! :smile:

… just woken up … :zzz:
Oblivion77 said:
\Sigma Fx = -118.65 -F3Cos[\alpha] + F1 =0

\Sigma Fy = 68.5 - F3Sin[\alpha] = 0

I don't know how to go from here, with the "minimum"

Yes, that's right. :smile:

Tip: when you have two equations with cos and sin,

put the cos and sin on their own on the left, then square and add (using cos2 + sin2 = 1, of course) :wink:

That will give you F3 in terms of F1, and then … ? :smile:
 
...after you solve a little bit, you get;


137/2=F3*Sin(a)

so for a=>90 degrees sin is max and F3 is min.

Min F3 is 137/2...And a is 90 degrees...


and magnitude of F1 is;

F1=Cos30*137
 
Hi MrEnergy! :smile:
MrEnergy said:
137/2=F3*Sin(a)

so for a=>90 degrees sin is max and F3 is min.

Min F3 is 137/2...And a is 90 degrees...


and magnitude of F1 is;

F1=Cos30*137

oops! I over-complicated it! :redface:

Yes, you're absolutely right. :smile:

(hmm … not sure how I helped there … :redface:)
 
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