Found a series problem online, extremely hard to solve. help

  • Context: High School 
  • Thread starter Thread starter some_letters
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Hard Series
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a challenging series problem where participants are trying to determine the next number in a specific numerical sequence. The problem is framed as a homework question, but it also invites exploratory reasoning and mathematical analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • The sequence starts with the numbers 1 and 2, and participants are tasked with finding the next number.
  • One participant notes that all numbers except the first two are divisible by 3 and proposes a method involving doubling, addition, and multiplication to derive subsequent terms.
  • A mathematical formula is suggested: ai = 3 [2*ai-2 + ai-1] for i ≥ 3, which is further simplified to ai = 6ai-2 + 3ai-1.
  • Another participant mentions that the problem might be better suited for a brain teasers category rather than a homework section.
  • There is a recognition that all numbers in the sequence are divisible by 2, 3, and 12, which adds another layer to the analysis.
  • A prediction is made for the next number in the sequence to be 1,498,824 based on the proposed method.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various approaches to the problem, with some agreeing on the divisibility aspects and the method of using previous terms, while others suggest different categorizations for the thread. There is no consensus on the definitive next number in the sequence.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in deriving the next term, and there are assumptions about the method's validity that remain unexamined.

some_letters
Messages
54
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement

What is the next number in the following series?
1 2 12 48 216 936 4104 17928 78408 342792 ____________

Homework Equations


I haven't any idea

The Attempt at a Solution



power's of two, powers of three, prime numbers. I am beat

it can be found on this test --->http://www.mental-testing.com/

Mod's, I am sorry if this is in the wrong sub-directory. I couldn't figure out where else to put it.
 
Last edited:
Mathematics news on Phys.org
All the numbers except the first two are divisible by 3.

Start with the first two numbers in the sequence (1 and 2) as being given.

Take 1 and double it: you get 2.

Add this to 2: you get 4.

Multiply the result by 3: you get **12**

Repeat these three steps over and over again, just shifting your position in the sequence forward by one number each time. For example:

2*2 = 4
4 + 12 = 16
16 * 3 = **48**

12*2=24
24+48 =72
72*3 = **216**

48*2 = 96
96+216= 312
312*3 = **936**

etc.

More generally, if ai is the ith number in the sequence, with a1 = 1 and a2 = 2, then:

ai = 3 [2*ai-2 + ai-1 ] for i ≥ 3

ai = 6ai-2 + 3ai-1

EDIT: and by the way, "Pre-calculus Mathematics" would have been a good sub forum to post this thread in since 1) it is mathematics and 2) it is the type of math that comes before learning calculus.

EDIT 2: based on this, I predict the next number in the sequence to be 1,498,824
 
Last edited:
In the past similar questions landed in the brain teasers.
 
Good point Borek, especially since it didn't really seem like homework (else I would not have posted a full solution!)
 
Thanks Cehpeid, I realized that every number was divisble by 2,3, and 12. I never thought to include the previous two terms.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K