Fourier Series Frequency, Period, and Coefficients

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the fundamental frequency, period, and Fourier Series coefficients for the function 10sin²(10t). Participants explore both graphical and mathematical approaches to determine these properties, including the use of trigonometric identities and the implications of squaring the sine function.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to start the problem, particularly regarding the integration of sin² before finding frequency and period.
  • Another participant suggests examining the graphs of sin(t) and sin²(t) to understand the effect of squaring on the period.
  • A participant notes that sin²(t) appears to halve the period, leading to a proposed period of π/10 for the function 10sin²(10t).
  • There is a calculation presented for the frequency, ω, as 20, derived from the relationship between period and frequency.
  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric identities to express the function in a different form, which aids in understanding the Fourier Series coefficients.
  • One participant mentions that the function is even, implying that its Fourier expansion will not include sine terms, and suggests a half-range cosine expansion approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the period being π/10 and the frequency being 20. However, there is no consensus on the method for finding the Fourier Series coefficients, with different approaches suggested and no definitive resolution provided.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about terminology and calculations, particularly regarding the variable T and the implications of using trigonometric identities. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and comfort with the material.

Who May Find This Useful

Students and individuals seeking assistance with Fourier Series, trigonometric identities, and the analysis of periodic functions may find this discussion beneficial.

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Homework Statement



Given the function 10sin^2(10t)

Find the fundamental frequency and period.

Find the exponential and trigonometric coefficients of the Fourier Series.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I really have no idea how to start this problem. The sin^2 is what is throwing me off, as I am not sure if i am supposed to integrate it first before finding the frequency and period. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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I would start by looking at the graph of sin(t) and sin2t to see what squaring it does to the period of a sine function.
 
Ok, so I did as you said and checked out the difference. The sin^2(t) seems to cut the period in half, so rather than being ∏/5 in my case, it was ∏/10. So, to find my T variable, it would be:

2∏/(∏/10)

right?

Then I should be able to just plug my ω=∏/10, and T into the equations for exponential and trigonometric coefficients I think...

Sorry, this stuff is really difficult to grasp for some reason.
 
ats3216 said:
Ok, so I did as you said and checked out the difference. The sin^2(t) seems to cut the period in half, so rather than being ∏/5 in my case, it was ∏/10. So, to find my T variable, it would be:

2∏/(∏/10)
In other words, 20.
right?

Since I don't know what your T represents, I don't know if that is right or not. But you are correct that the period of ##\sin^2(10t)## is ##\pi/10##.
 
Ok, so now that I know that the period of this function is ∏/10, the frequency is 20.

I graphed it first to figure out the period, then solved it mathematically. Using trig identities:

10sin(10t) = 1/2 - (5cos(20t))/2

The frequency, ω is the 20 in that equation, then plugging that into the equation for solving the period (this is the T I was referring to in my last post, sorry for being unclear):

T=2∏/ω

so T=∏/10.

Thank you for walking me through that. I understand how that part works. Now, the next part is finding the exponential and trigonometric coefficients of this function... Which I am again stuck at.
 
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ats3216 said:
Ok, so now that I know that the period of this function is ∏/10, the frequency is 20.

I graphed it first to figure out the period, then solved it mathematically. Using trig identities:

10sin2(10t) = 1/2 - (5cos(20t))/2 Note typo correction.

The frequency, ω is the 20 in that equation, then plugging that into the equation for solving the period (this is the T I was referring to in my last post, sorry for being unclear):

T=2∏/ω

so T=∏/10.

Thank you for walking me through that. I understand how that part works. Now, the next part is finding the exponential and trigonometric coefficients of this function... Which I am again stuck at.

Well, there is an easy way and a hard way from here. Here's the easy way. Your function is an even function as you know from graphing it, so its expansion will not have any sine terms. You could note that your trig identity above does express your function as a finite cosine series, so if you go to the work of doing a half range cosine expansion, that is what you will get after a lot of work. And you can substitute for the cosine in terms of complex exponentials and you will have the complex form of the FS, which will also have finitely many nonzero terms.
 

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