Fres = ma for atwood fall machine

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The discussion centers on the dynamics of two stationary blocks of equal mass suspended by a massless string over a pulley. When one block is given a downward velocity through energy transfer, the net force on both blocks remains zero, leading to questions about whether the block would fall indefinitely at a constant velocity. It is clarified that energy transfer requires work to be done on the system, which can be achieved by applying a force or adding mass. Once the external force is removed, the block will continue moving at a constant speed until it interacts with the pulley. The conversation emphasizes the principles of Newton's laws in relation to forces and motion.
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Consider two stationary blocks of same mass suspended by a massless string over some kind of pulley. The net force on both of them is clearly 0. Now suppose we somehow gave on of them a downwards velocity by some kind of energy transfer.
Then intuitively the block would start to fall down. But is that in agreement with Fres = ma? Because the net force on both blocks would be zero and thus allow no acceleration. Though of course Fres = ma does allow for a constant velocity. Therefore: Would the block just fall down with same velocity forever?
 
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Consider two stationary blocks of same mass suspended by a massless string over some kind of pulley. … of course Fres = ma does allow for a constant velocity. Therefore: Would the block just fall down with same velocity forever?

yup! :biggrin:

(well, until the other one hits the pulley! :wink:)
 
Energy cannot be transferred into the system unless work is done on the system, such as by applying a force to one of the blocks, hanging another mass from it, or whacking it with a sledge hammer. As long as that force is maintained, the system will accelerate. When the force is released such as in the sledge hammer case, then there no longer is energy being transferred into the system, no more work is being done on it, no more unbalanced force exists, and yes, per Newton's first law, in the absence of friction, it will continue to move at constant speed well not forever, but at least until the rising block gets caught in the pulley. Edit: as more concisely stated by tiny-Tim, yepp!
 
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