Frictional Torque for Static Equilibrium of a Pulley

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The problem involves a pulley system with two masses, where one mass is attached to a string over a pulley with friction in its axle. The objective is to determine the magnitude of frictional torque required to maintain static equilibrium.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the net torque by finding the forces acting on the pulley and subtracting the torques created by both masses. Participants inquire about the radius of the pulley and suggest checking calculations for accuracy.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the calculations involved, with some offering guidance on checking arithmetic and ensuring the correct use of the sine function. There is recognition of a potential error in the original poster's calculations due to a calculator setting.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions using the formula for torque and expresses uncertainty about their calculations, indicating a focus on understanding the setup and ensuring correct application of concepts.

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Homework Statement


A mass of 0.311kg is attached to one end of a string, and a mass of 0.625kg is handing off the other end. The string goes over a pulley which has friction in its axle.

What is the magnitude of frictional torque required to maintain static equilibrium?


Homework Equations



[tex]\tau=rFsin\theta[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I figured that I'd just have to find the forces acted on the pulley by both masses, calculate the resulting torques created by both of them, and subtract them to find the torque required to "cancel" the net torque in the system.

Thus:

[tex]\tau_{net} \approx 0.52 - 0.26 \approx 0.26[/tex]

My answer wasn't right.. Am I getting the concept right and just making a calculation mistake? Or is my method completely wrong?

Thanks!
 
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Your method sounds good to me. What's the radius of the pulley?
 
Doc Al said:
Your method sounds good to me. What's the radius of the pulley?

Oh, sorry. The radius is 9.5cm, so I just converted to m and solved.
 
BraedenP said:
Oh, sorry. The radius is 9.5cm, so I just converted to m and solved.
OK.

BraedenP said:
[tex]\tau_{net} \approx 0.52 - 0.26 \approx 0.26[/tex]
Show how you made those calculations.
 
Doc Al said:
OK.


Show how you made those calculations.

[tex]\tau=rFsin\theta[/tex]

[tex]\tau=(0.095m)((0.311 \cdot 9.81)sin(90))\approx 0.26 N \cdot m[/tex]

[tex]\tau=(0.095m)((0.625 \cdot 9.81)sin(90))\approx 0.52 N \cdot m[/tex]
 
Redo your calculations.
 
Hmm, I'm not getting it. I'm using the right formula, aren't I? And I'm pretty sure the angle is 90, since the force is directed straight down.

And I really hope I didn't make a mistake in the force/radius, because those are just simple!
 
Your formula is fine. But your arithmetic is a bit off. Plug those number into your calculator once more.
 
Oh.. Ugh! I had it in Radian mode the whole time from my Calculus homework..

So those should be 0.29 and 0.58 respectively, right?
 
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BraedenP said:
Oh.. Ugh! I had it in Radian mode the whole time from my Calculus homework..
D'oh! But you should know that sin90° = 1 without using a calculator!

So those should be 0.29 and 0.58 respectively, right?
Much better.
 
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Great! Thanks for your help. :)
 

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