Fundamental Frequency of a string

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The discussion revolves around calculating the fundamental frequency of a string fixed at both ends, vibrating in eight sections at 150 Hz. The user initially calculated the wave speed as 540 m/s and confirmed the frequency as 150 Hz, but received feedback indicating an error. Clarification was sought regarding the relationship between the number of antinodes and harmonics, leading to confusion about using the first harmonic for the fundamental frequency. It was concluded that with eight antinodes, the string is indeed at the eighth harmonic, meaning the fundamental frequency is one-eighth of 150 Hz. The user is encouraged to focus on the fundamental frequency as the first harmonic, which is essential for solving the problem correctly.
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Homework Statement


The length of a string is 1440 cm. The
string is held fixed at each end. The string
vibrates in eight sections; i.e., the string has
eight antinodes, and the string vibrates at
150 Hz.

What is the fundamental frequency? Answer
in units of Hz.

Homework Equations



f = nv / 2L frequency = (# antinodes)(velocity) / (2 * length)

The Attempt at a Solution



I already found the wavelength which is 3.6 m. I got that by substituting nv/2L for f into the equation v=λf (velocity = wavelength*frequency). Then I followed the above frequency formula:

v=λf
v=(3.6 m)(150 Hz) = 540 m/s

f = nv / 2L
f = (8)(540 m/s) / (2*14.4 m) = 150 Hz

My online HW said it was wrong. So I tried again.

f = (2)(540 m/s) / (2*14.4 m) = 37.5 Hz

I used two because it said that fundamental frequency is the lowest frequency and you can use the first harmonic or something. Didn't really understand it. But the two is because the 1st harmonic has 2 antinodes.

I am so confused and I have no clue what I am doing! Please help <:S
 
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If there are 8 antinodes then there are 4 wavelengths represented on the string.

But I think 8 antinodes means it's the 8'th harmonic of the string.

So isn't 1/8 of 150 hz then the first harmonic and isn't that the frequency you use with 2*L to determine v?
 
Or do you not need to find the v?

Only the f1 fundamental frequency?
 
i already found v. i just don't understand the fundamental frequency part.
 
nn3568 said:
i already found v. i just don't understand the fundamental frequency part.

8 antinodes means 8th harmonic = 8 times the fundamental frequency (first harmonic).
 
Here's a link:
http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/Class/sound/u11l4d.html
 
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