Fundamentals of thermodynamics, specific volume stuff

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of liquid ammonia that can be removed from a rigid tank at a constant temperature of 20°C with a quality of 50%. Given the saturated specific volumes for liquid and gas, the initial calculations suggest that 1 kg of liquid and 1 kg of gas are present. The total volume of the tank is calculated as 0.150858 m³, leading to a conclusion that approximately 0.989 kg of liquid can be removed after accounting for the gas needed to fill the remaining space. However, there is some debate regarding the accuracy of the tank volume calculation and the method used to determine the mass of liquid that can be extracted. Overall, the consensus is that the final answer of 0.989 kg is correct based on the provided data.
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1. ammonia at 20 c with a quality of 50% and a total mass of 2 kg is in a rigid tank with an outlet valve at the bottom. how much liquid mass can be removed through the valve assuming that the temperature stays constant?

and from so table in the text

saturated press.= 857.5kps (@20 c)
saturated specific volume Vf = 0.001638 [m^3/kg]
saturated specific volume Vg = 0.1422 [m^3/kg]

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mass liquid =1 kg
mass gas= 1kg

Vf * 1kg = 0.001638 m^3
Vg* 1kg= 0.1422 m^3

v of tank = 0.150858 m^3

(0.001638 m^3)/(Vg = 0.1422 [m^3/kg])= 0.0109770808kg

1kg (of liquid) -0.0109770808kg ( mass of gas needed to fill the liquids space) = .9890229192 kg of liquid can be removed from the tankcan anyone tell me if that's right?
 
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Hi eibon,
The problem gives you the quality (50%) of the saturated, 2 phase mixture. It also gives you the temperature and total mass. I'm going to assume you've correctly found the values of Vf, Vg and the saturation pressure.

Knowing this information, you can determine the nominal density of the mixture by applying the equation for the definition of quality. I don't see that equation listed in your post so I can't be sure how you arrived at the tank volume, but I don't think your answer is correct (ie: .150858 m^3 doesn't seem right to me).

Once you determine the tank volume, then knowing that temperature doesn't change as you remove liquid from the tank until the pressure hits the saturated gas point, you may assume the remaining ammonia is 100% saturated gas. Since you already have the specific volume for this, you should be able to determine the mass left in the tank. Then it's just a simple calculation to determine how much mass was removed.
 
I've been working on the same question for an assignment. I think the volume of the tank is correct and I also got the same final answer (0.98902 kg).
 
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