FWHM of radioactive sources confusion

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The discussion revolves around the Full Width at Half Maximum (FWHM) of peaks observed in data collected from various radioactive sources, including Th-230, Am-241, Po-210, and Pu-238. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the significance of FWHM in relation to the quality of radioactive sources and questions why different Th-230 sources exhibit varying FWHM values.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between FWHM and the predictability of decay lifetimes, with some suggesting that a narrower FWHM indicates a more reliable source. Questions are raised about the implications of different FWHM values for Th-230 sources and the factors that might contribute to these differences, such as sample purity or age.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the meaning of FWHM and its relevance to the quality of radioactive sources. Some guidance has been provided regarding the statistical nature of decay times and the interpretation of FWHM in the context of decay distributions, but no consensus has been reached on the specific reasons for the observed differences in FWHM values.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the use of a multichannel analyzer to obtain FWHM values from a range of energy channels, and there is mention of dividing FWHM by the peak channel for comparison purposes. The original poster's uncertainty about the appropriate forum for their question is also highlighted.

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I am not sure if I should be using this board or the nuclear board but I chose this board because it is for class work. Anyways over the past few months I have been collecting data from radioactive sources (Th-230, Am-241, Po-210, Pu-238). Now I understand that the number of events divided by the live time will be proportional to the strength of the source. What I am not clear about is what the FWHM of the peaks means. My professor had me take note of them and it seemed like the smaller the FWHM the better of a source it was; but I don't know what the FWHM is really a measure of (in terms of the quality of the source). Going along with that, why would two different Th-230 sources have a different FWHM for their primary peak?

Thanks
 
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The decay time of a source, as you have probably seen, is not exactly predictable; rather, it can happen at any time but tends to occur near a certain 'mean' time. In other words, just like a plinko game, there is a distribution of values which theoretically extends from t=0 (short decay time) to t-->infinity (long decay time). It looks sort of like a bell curve, and it is called either a Gaussian or Poisson distribution, depending on the number of events. Since these functions technically have infinite width, a convenient reference to use is the full-width-half-maximum or FWHM value. See http://www.physics.sfsu.edu/~bland/courses/490/labs/b2/b2.html for details.

If you look at your Gaussian on a plot of # of decays vs. decay time, you see there is a certain time where the number of decays peaks. This maximum is sometimes called the mean decay lifetime. The "distance" (in this case time) between the half-maximum values, which occur on either side of the peak, is the FWHM. The narrower the FWHM, the more likely a source will decay within a certain range of its mean value. See Wikipedia "FWHM" or the web page mentioned above for a decent picture of this.

So sources that have narrow FWHMs have very predictable decay lifetimes, which can be useful. I believe one of the drawbacks of carbon-14 dating is that, the older the organic sample is, the wider the FWHM value is and therefore the harder it is to date with good statistical confidence.

I don't know why two different Th-230 sources would have different FWHM values; this could either be normal statistical variance or it could have something to do with the purity or age of the sample. I would think that the older a sample is, the less predictably it will decay, since much of the sample has already decayed into something stable and you have just a few unstable nuclei left. However, I think the mean decay lifetime should be the same no matter what the age of the sample is. Was this the case?
 
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Luck of Ebisu said:
I am not sure if I should be using this board or the nuclear board but I chose this board because it is for class work. Anyways over the past few months I have been collecting data from radioactive sources (Th-230, Am-241, Po-210, Pu-238). Now I understand that the number of events divided by the live time will be proportional to the strength of the source. What I am not clear about is what the FWHM of the peaks means. My professor had me take note of them and it seemed like the smaller the FWHM the better of a source it was; but I don't know what the FWHM is really a measure of (in terms of the quality of the source). Going along with that, why would two different Th-230 sources have a different FWHM for their primary peak?

Thanks
Are you counting gamma rays with a multi-channel analyzer?
 
I'm sorry, I really should have specified that. I am using a multichannel analyzer, so the peaks I am getting the FWHM from are a small range of channels representing a small range of energies, and the total number of counts at each specific energy. Also for what its worth, to be able to compare the different elements, I divided each FWHM by the peak channel.
 
Anyone?
 

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