Estimating Car Weight from Tire Pressure

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The discussion revolves around estimating the mass of a car based on tire pressure and footprint area. The initial calculation using gauge pressure and tire area led to confusion regarding unit conversions and pressure definitions. Participants clarified that gauge pressure should be converted to absolute pressure, and the correct area conversion from cm² to m² is crucial. After several attempts, the final calculation yielded an estimated car weight of approximately 2155 kg, which aligns with average car weights. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding pressure units and proper calculations in physics problems.
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Homework Statement


The gauge pressure in each of the four tires of an automobile is 240 kPa. If each tire has a "footprint" of 220 cm2, estimate the mass of the car.


Homework Equations



F= ma ?
W1 = P1A1 ?

The Attempt at a Solution



total weight = W1+W2+W3+W4 = P(A1+A2+A3+A4) <------- since all tires have same surface area and same pressure.

240pka(2.2m^3 x 4) = 2112 kg??

dont think i did that right
 
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You are confusing gauge pressure and absolute pressure. Look up the definition of gauge pressure.
 
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Hi A_Munk3y! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
A_Munk3y said:
… If each tire has a "footprint" of 220 cm2, estimate the mass of the car.

240pka(2.2m^3 x 4) = 2112 kg??

dont think i did that right

erm :redface: … 220 cm2 = 220 m2/? :smile:
 


kuruman said:
You are confusing gauge pressure and absolute pressure. Look up the definition of gauge pressure.
P = F/A ---- is that it?

tiny-tim said:
Hi A_Munk3y! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)erm :redface: … 220 cm2 = 220 m2/? :smile:
its 220 cm2 = 0.022m2 isn't it :redface:

ok let me try this again :P
 
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attempt 2
Pressure = Force/Area = Mg/Area = Pa
kPa= = 1000 pa

240Kpa x 1000 pa/kpa = 240,000 pa240,000 pa x 4 tires = 9.8 x m/ 880cm2(1/100)2

960,000 = 9.8m/0.088m2

or does the pressure remain 240000 (you don't add it?)
so its 240,000 = 9.8m/.088m2
m= 2155.1 kg?
 
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Hi A_Munk3y! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
A_Munk3y said:
240pka(2.2m^3 x 4) = 2112 kg??

hmm … you're really not good at units, are you? :wink:

how about kN instead of kg? :smile:
(that slipped past me last night! :rolleyes:)
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi A_Munk3y! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)hmm … you're really not good at units, are you? :wink:

how about kN instead of kg? :smile:
(that slipped past me last night! :rolleyes:)


nope, i completely suck at units! >:(

so you mean 240,000 = 9.8m/.088m2 is still not right ? :frown:
 
ah, you did put the 9.8 in in post #5 …

yes, m = 240 x 88 / 9.8 = 2155 kg looks right (and I think 2000 kg is a fairly average car weight in the USA). :smile:
 
ok! w000t!
thank you so much :)
 
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