Gauss' Law: Solid Non-conducting Cylinder

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The problem involves a long, solid, non-conducting cylinder with a non-uniform volume density that varies with the radial distance from the axis. The specific question is about determining the magnitude of the electric field at a point within the cylinder.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the electric field using Gauss' Law but expresses uncertainty about their setup and calculations. Some participants suggest using a Gaussian surface and integrating the charge density to find the total charge enclosed.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the application of Gauss' Law in this context, with some offering guidance on setting up the problem correctly. There is an acknowledgment of the need to handle the length of the cylinder appropriately, and the conversation indicates a productive exchange of ideas without reaching a final consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the original poster's assumption regarding the length of the cylinder, which they initially set to 1 meter, leading to confusion in their calculations. The density function and its implications for charge distribution are also under discussion.

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Homework Statement



A long, solid, non-conducting cylinder of radius 8 cm has a non-uniform volume density, ρ, that is a function of the radial distance r from the axis of the cylinder. ρ = A*r2 where A is a constant of value 2.9 μC/m5.

What is the magnitude of the electric field 7 cm from the axis of the cylinder?

Homework Equations



Volume of a cylinder: pi*L*R^2
Gauss' Law: ∫ E·dA = E(pi*L*R^2) = Qinside0

The Attempt at a Solution



ρ = A*r2 = (2.9x10^-6)*0.7^3 = 1.421e-8

ρV = (1.421x10^-8)* pi*0.7^2 = 2.18745955e-10

E = (Qinside*pi*r^2)/ε0 = 5.433109096 N/C

That does not look right at all to me, and I am not sure where my set up went wrong. Its obvious to me that I did not need the length of the cylinder so I ommited L (actually assumed a value of 1). Did I get the volume correct?
 
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Hi, Bryon.

First of all, we have Gauss' law:

[tex]\oint_\mathcal{S} \mathbf{E} \cdot d\mathbf{S} = \frac{Q_\text{int}}{\epsilon_0}[/tex]​

The point where they ask you to get the E field is inside the cylinder, so to get this E field, you would need to set up a gaussian cylinder of radius 7 cm (I'd work symbolically until the very end) and use Gauss' law. The evaluation of the LHS is very easy, it is merely the E times the curved outer surface area of the gaussian cylinder (the sides don't add to the flux integral because there, E is perpendicular to the surface). Assuming that the cylinder is of radius [tex]r[/tex] and length [tex]L[/tex], this turns out to be [tex]E 2 \pi r L[/tex].

The RHS is slightly trickier, as this involves the total charge contained in the gaussian cylinder. That is:

[tex]Q_\text{int} = \int_V \rho dv[/tex]​

To work out the differential element of volume, we remember that the volume of a cylinder is [tex]v = \pi r^2 L[/tex], and differentiating with respect to [tex]r[/tex], we have [tex]dv = 2 \pi r L dr[/tex]. We also have the charge density [tex]\rho[/tex] as a function of [tex]r[/tex]. Plugging it into the charge equation,

[tex]Q_\text{int} = \int_V \rho dv = \int_0^r A r'^2 2 \pi r' L dr' = \frac{A \pi L r^4}{2}[/tex]​

where I added [tex]'[/tex] to the integrand to not confuse it with the upper limit. All you need to do now is set both sides of Gauss' law equal to each other, solve for the E field, and not forgetting to do unit conversion, evaluate it at r = 7 cm.

Notice how when you set them equal, the [tex]L[/tex]'s cancel out, as expected - this is a better method than to assume it's value to be 1. 1 What? cm? m?

Good luck.
 
Ah I see. I was not sure how to get rid of L. Which I just assumed to be 1m.
 
Ah now that I read your post I makes a lot more sense! Thanks!
 

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