Gauss's Law: Electric Field from Long Cylinder w/ Charge Density

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The discussion revolves around applying Gauss's law to determine the electric field outside a long, uniformly charged cylinder with a specified surface charge density. Participants are exploring the relationship between electric flux, charge, and the geometry of the Gaussian surface.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the setup of a Gaussian surface around the charged cylinder and the implications for calculating electric flux and total charge. Questions arise regarding the appropriate surface area to use and the treatment of the ends of the cylinder.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the setup of the Gaussian surface and the calculation of electric flux. There is a mix of correct and incorrect assumptions being explored, and some participants are questioning their understanding of the geometry involved.

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There is a focus on the assumption that the point of interest is far from the ends of the cylinder, which influences the calculation of electric flux. Participants are also navigating the implications of using different surface areas for the Gaussian surface.

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Homework Statement



Use Gauss’s law to determine a formula for the electric field outside (and far from the ends) of a long, uniformly charged cylinder of radius R and surface charge density σ C/m2.


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I suppose net electric flux = ErA = Q/e0


The Attempt at a Solution



I solved for E, and then plugged in 4pi^2R^3h for A (surface area of cylinder). Just a blind stab in the dark.
 
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You need to set up a Gaussian surface of radius r around the cylinder and then use Gauss' law. What will the total flux through the Gaussian surface be? What is the total charge inside the surface?
 
Kurdt said:
You need to set up a Gaussian surface of radius r around the cylinder and then use Gauss' law. What will the total flux through the Gaussian surface be? What is the total charge inside the surface?

Could the Gaussian surface be a cylinder with a greater radius than the original cylinder?

Would the total flux be EA, where A is 4pir^2?

Total charge inside the surface...not sure. =(
 
Yes, the gaussian surfeace would be a cylinder that is bigger than the cylinder of charge. The surface area of a cylinder is not [itex]4\pir^2[/itex], you're thinking of a sphere.

For the toatal charge, you know the charge per unit area so what is the surface area of a cylinder?
 
Wouldn't the flux just go through the two ends, and not through the side of the cylinder for a Gaussian surface? So it would be 2piR^2 + 2piR^2?

Charge per unit area is σ C/m2. So (surface area)(σ)??
 
You can ignore the ends that's why the question mentions the point is far away from them. To work out the surface area of the cylinder without the ends imagine unfolding it into a rectangle the same length of the cylinder and the width of the circumference of the cylinder.

You are correct for the total charge. It is simply the surface area multiplied by the charge density. Remember we're ignoring the ends.
 
I just σ/E0.

Is this correct?
 
Not quite. You were at the point where you had the E-field multiplied by the area of the Gaussian cylinder was equal to the total charge (i.e. the charge density multiplied by the surface area of the cylinder of charge) divided by epsilon nought. Remember the radius of each of those cylinders is different.
 

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