General inverses of trigonometry function

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The discussion revolves around the general inverses of trigonometric functions, specifically focusing on the arcsine function and the differences in definitions and notations between various sources, such as Wikipedia and textbooks. Participants explore the implications of these definitions on the solutions to the equation sin(y) = x.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant finds the Wikipedia statement about arcsin(x) confusing, arguing that it does not account for all possible solutions to sin(y) = x.
  • Another participant agrees that the textbook provides a more complete representation of the solutions, highlighting that Wikipedia's formulation misses certain values like 2π/3.
  • A third participant emphasizes the distinction between "arcsin(x)" as the principal value and the general solution, suggesting that capitalization may indicate different meanings in various texts.
  • A reference to a specific textbook is made, which discusses the conventions of notation and the importance of recognizing the restricted domains and ranges of inverse trigonometric functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the completeness of the definitions provided by Wikipedia versus those in textbooks. There is no consensus on which statement is definitively correct, as different interpretations of notation and definitions are acknowledged.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the definitions of arcsine and the implications of capitalization in notation may vary between sources, leading to potential confusion. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the context in which these functions are defined.

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I find this statement confusing from Wikipedia:



sin(y)=x\Leftrightarrow y=arcsin(x)+2k\pi\ \forall\ k\in\mathbb Z


Is this statement false? "arcsin(x)" gives the principal value:[\frac{-\pi}{2},\frac{\pi}{2}]. Therefore,specifically, "arcsin(x)" gives \frac{\pi}{3}\text{ but not}\frac{2\pi}{3}.



My textbook:

sin(y)=x\Leftrightarrow y=(-1)^{k}arcsin(x)+k\pi\ \forall\ k\in\mathbb Z

I think my textbook's statement is more "complete".Or are the 2 statements both true?
 
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Yes your textbook is giving all the solutions, while wikipedia is missing about half of the possible solutions. Take y=2\pi/3 for example, wikipedia won't return that solution with its formula while the other will.
 
kntsy said:
I find this statement confusing from Wikipedia:



sin(y)=x\Leftrightarrow y=arcsin(x)+2k\pi\ \forall\ k\in\mathbb Z


Is this statement false? "arcsin(x)" gives the principal value:[\frac{-\pi}{2},\frac{\pi}{2}]. Therefore,specifically, "arcsin(x)" gives \frac{\pi}{3}\text{ but not}\frac{2\pi}{3}.



My textbook:

sin(y)=x\Leftrightarrow y=(-1)^{k}arcsin(x)+k\pi\ \forall\ k\in\mathbb Z

I think my textbook's statement is more "complete".Or are the 2 statements both true?
Look more closely at your textbook. Most texts use "Arcsin(x)" to mean the "principal value" of arcsin(x)- the value y such that sin(y)= x for 0\le y< \pi.

Notice the difference? The CAPITALIZED A means the principal value, the small a arcsine, the more general value.
 
Regarding capilatization conventions, Berkey/Blanchard: Calculus, 3rd ed. 1992, write, "Be careful to note that Tan-1 x means the inverse of the function y = Tan x , not (tan x)-1." Where Tan is the "restricted tangent function" with domain (-pi/2, pi/2) and range (-infinity, infinity). "The alternatives y = Arc tan x and y = arctan x are also frequently used to represent y = Tan-1 x." Even so, they call Tan-1, the "inverse tangent function", and Sin-1 the "inverse sine function" (for -1 <or= x <or= 1 and -pi/2 <or=y <or= pi/2, the inverse sine function is defined by y = Sin-1 x iff x = sin y). So for them, at least, it seems that arc- and Arc are interchangeable.
 
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