Get Bifilar Wound Coils for Your Project: 2 of Each Type

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Bifilar wound coils, specifically flat spiral and cylindrical types, are sought for a wireless power transfer project requiring 1-2 watts at a distance of at least one meter. The discussion highlights the need for manufacturers or suppliers of these coils, emphasizing their unique property of canceling induction. Participants discuss the importance of frequency, suggesting around 1 MHz for optimal performance. The conversation also touches on the benefits of using multi-strand inductors, with recommendations for Litz wire and DIY solutions for creating twisted pairs. Overall, the thread focuses on sourcing bifilar coils and their applications in wireless energy transfer.
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Hi anyone can help me to get these... i want bifilar wounded flat spiral and cylindrical coils for my project can anyone tell where i can get them i required in quantity of two each
 
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Here is one link to the flat bifilar spirals, looks like it was invented by Tesla:

http://energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6674-teslas-bifilar-pancake-coils.html
 
Yeah i know about that information but i want details about manufacturers for it
 
This kind of coil cancels induction, Is that what you want?
 
Yes your correct... i want that type of coil but i want to know where i can get not the details about the coil
 
Can you tell us your application?
 
wireless power transfer
 
That's what I thought. Do you know how much power you want to transfer and how far? There are some apps where you just power a mat that you can set the device to be charged on the mat where the distance is only a few cm. Then there is the kind that wants several hundred watts at 2 meters. Which app are you after?
 
My application needs to transfer minimum of 5 volts and (200-300) mA range current that means i should be able to transfer atleast 1-2watt range at a distance of atleast 1 meter
 
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Ok, now what you need is to figure out the frequency of the coil. I would guess something around 1 mhz or so. You say 'at least' one meter, what about 'at most'?
 
  • #11
A bifilar wound coil will produce no magnetic field. Why would you want that?
 
  • #12
does it cancel the negative effects of coil by making self inductance zero or it completely makes field zero..?
 
  • #13
The latter, inductance zero. That was why I was wondering what you were after.
 
  • #14
but i heard it reduces the drop across the inductor but increases the field generated around it. and also some people told compared to unifilar coils with bifilar coils they are getting more power in secondary coil
 
  • #15
Vikas_Madhu said:
does it cancel the negative effects of coil by making self inductance zero or it completely makes field zero..?

Are those two things different?

Otoh, are you really wanting a multi strand inductor?

There are applications for bifilar windings. For instance in Residual Current Circuit breakers an some component bridges.
 
  • #16
sophiecentaur said:
Are those two things different?

Otoh, are you really wanting a multi strand inductor?

There are applications for bifilar windings. For instance in Residual Current Circuit breakers an some component bridges.

yes i need multi strand inductor..
 
  • #17
Try Litz wire. It was very popular at one time in radio circuits.
 
  • #18
In-house bifilar twisted pair machine - diy

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/805268116/spool-spinner-makes-axially-spiraled-wire-twisted

I have begun building my own spool spinner for in-house manufacturing of twisted pair stainless fine enamel coated wire. I've added a description, more photos and videos to the link above. I hope to break this barrier and make twisted pair capability available to hobbyists like myself, also a retired NASA contractor. Thanks, Ron
 
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