Girl in physics and I hate the attention :[

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A junior physics student at a university with a significant gender imbalance expresses frustration over the difficulty of forming casual friendships with male classmates. Despite not feeling academically intimidated, every attempt to socialize leads to awkward romantic advances, which disrupts potential friendships. The student seeks advice on how to navigate these interactions without fostering unwanted romantic interest, emphasizing a desire for platonic connections to discuss physics and share experiences. Suggestions include being clear about intentions, exploring friendships with other students, and considering online communities. Some responses highlight the challenges of male-female dynamics in academic settings, while others propose strategies like wearing a fake wedding ring to deter advances. The overarching theme is the struggle to balance social needs with the complications of gender dynamics in a male-dominated field.
  • #61
*eyeroll*
 
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  • #62
AUK 1138 said:
Interestingly enough, I've recently realized that girls in my math/physics classes tend to be (on average) bitchier and more self-righteous than other girls. ... thoughts?

It's been a while since I've been in school, and back then there were typically 0, 1 or 2 girls in a typical physics, or engineering class. I didn't find them any bitchier, or more self-righteous than other girls.

... wait, that didn't come out right. Let me add that in general I don't find that girls are self-righteous, as a rule.

... wait, that didn't come out right either. Well, you get the idea.
 
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  • #63
I don't think girls are generally bitchy in any situation, but if there is a personality type that does not "mel" with theirs, they react accordingly. I always check my actions and attitude before I conclude that someone is just being bitchy. It may be something provoked. Same thing with guys.

Even the OP does not come across as "bitchy" because guys are giving her a lot of attention. It's just that the attention is unwanted, and she is tired of dealing with it...and she still manages to consider the emotions of the guys she's talking about.
 
  • #64
This is pathetic. in general.
 
  • #65
Better than being antipathetic in general :wink:
 
  • #66
Moonbear said:
For those who have suggested a fake diamond, I don't know how much that really helps, but it might. Don't say you're married or have a boyfriend or anything like that, just wear it.
I did that trick as well :smile: Not that it worked, because now I had guys asking what that ring was for.
Of course I couldn't lie, so I'd say it's just a ring, nothing special :rolleyes:
 
  • #67
Switch to Biology. It's the only way.
 
  • #68
:smile:
 
  • #69
You could always go to class without taking much care in your appearance.
You say you don't like the attention, but I don't believe it. I bet you put make-up on and everything.
 
  • #70
>_> yeahh... I doubt that will work either. What about guys who don't like makeup? Taking care of yourself is a mark of confidence and self esteem, not an invitation for unwanted attention.
 
  • #71
Monique said:
I did that trick as well :smile: Not that it worked, because now I had guys asking what that ring was for.
Of course I couldn't lie, so I'd say it's just a ring, nothing special :rolleyes:

THIS is soooo funny!:smile:
 
  • #72
leroyjenkens said:
You could always go to class without taking much care in your appearance.
You say you don't like the attention, but I don't believe it. I bet you put make-up on and everything.

I'm sure the OP doesn't have a problem with male attention. Rather, she doesn't want that attention coming from awkward nerds. i have two sisters, they used to put a lot of time into their appearances, it seemed to be the thing all their friends did too. You can't be mad at a woman for being a woman.
 
  • #73
HeLiXe said:
>_> yeahh... I doubt that will work either. What about guys who don't like makeup? Taking care of yourself is a mark of confidence and self esteem, not an invitation for unwanted attention.
Flies, as well as bees, maybe attracted to the same flower. :biggrin:

It's the law of unintended consequences. :smile:
 
  • #74
AUK 1138 said:
You can't be mad at a woman for being a woman.
You can't be mad at guys for being guys either, asking girls out is just as much a guy thing as looking after your appearance is a girl thing.
HeLiXe said:
What about guys who don't like makeup?
All guys likes makeup, the question is just where they draw the line. All guys likes makeup they don't notice which is why women who are really good at putting on makeup makes it in such a way that it is hard to notice. Then there are these freaks who wear makeup in other ways, that is what some guys don't like.

In a way I think that if she puts on noticeable amounts of makeup she would scare away the nerds, probably the easiest way to do it without scaring away all of the guys.
 
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  • #75
I actually don't like make up. I find it unnecessary.

I also really don't like perfumes and colognes. I much prefer natural human scents.
 
  • #76
Astronuc said:
I actually don't like make up. I find it unnecessary.
Then you are neutral towards the whole appearance thing? I mean, makeup is no miracle worker but you should know that seemingly negligible things can have large impacts on peoples opinions. Just about every female plucks her eyebrows for example, so common that it has become a way to tell the sexes apart.
 
  • #77
Klockan3 said:
Then you are neutral towards the whole appearance thing? I mean, makeup is no miracle worker but you should know that seemingly negligible things can have large impacts on peoples opinions. Just about every female plucks her eyebrows for example, so common that it has become a way to tell the sexes apart.

I hate makeup and certain colognes that women wear. Makes me puke a little inside, more so when I see makeup. Its simply repulsive. Although what I do like about scents is that whenever I smell it again I instantly think about the female I liked before I smelled it, so that's a great thing that offsets anything else :biggrin:
 
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  • #78
Klockan3 said:
You can't be mad at guys for being guys either, asking girls out is just as much a guy thing as looking after your appearance is a girl thing.

true. however, awkwardly attempting to hit on a woman isn't very manly. It's cowardly.
 
  • #79
AUK 1138 said:
true. however, awkwardly attempting to hit on a woman isn't very manly. It's cowardly.

You right. The alpha male approach is the best one all around :biggrin:
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  • #80
leroyjenkens said:
You say you don't like the attention, but I don't believe it. I bet you put make-up on and everything.
Gee, what a male comment to make. And when a woman wears a nice dress, that gives men permission to say anything they want?

Just the other weekend it was hot and I was wearing a dress inside the house, but I needed to go to the store. It was a perfectly fine dress, but I decided it would probably attract attention so I changed into about 4 other dresses until deciding it was not worth the trouble and changed into some jeans. Of course you then still have the men who decide to make a comment that you are wearing jeans in warm weather :rolleyes: Does it ever occur to men that you are not out to attract their attention?
 
  • #81
MissSilvy said:
Current junior in physics at a pretty well ranked university, but our physics department has an 11 to 1 ratio of men to women. I don't feel academically intimidated or opressed or anything but I HATE that I can't ever get along casually with my fellow students. The two girls I see sometimes and myself get along fine, but every single time I try to put together a study group or just hang out in the physics lounge with a few guys, it always turns into this awkward unreciprocated attraction. Literally, without exception so far. Which leads to poor nerdy guys working up to courage to awkwardly ask me out to get a coffee sometime and me gently saying no, but by then the friendship is shot.

This is in no way to be constructed as "Haha, I'm so good looking that everyone wants me!" because just having a pair of breasts seems to do the trick, but come on now. This situation is getting ridiculous. I don't want to date, I don't have time to date, and I am not attracted to any of them. I want a few people I can hang out with, talk about physics, and possibly moan about classes. It's going to be a lonely two years if this keeps up and I'm not looking forward to that :( Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I can feel for ya... but... school is for learning and advancing your knowledge of the subject of your choice. Its not a social club. You can work at Starbucks and have a social club beyond that, what's a few years without 'friends'? You're spending good money... your's, your parents or the government's on your tuition to become something more than a hurried coffee serving drone. I would suggest you enjoy that fact and let the "nerds" and the "smelly fellows" continue in their own fantasy while you smoke em with better grades because your hormones are not dictating your actions... apparently.
 
  • #82
Monique said:
Gee, what a male comment to make. And when a woman wears a nice dress, that gives men permission to say anything they want?

Just the other weekend it was hot and I was wearing a dress inside the house, but I needed to go to the store. It was a perfectly fine dress, but I decided it would probably attract attention so I changed into about 4 other dresses until deciding it was not worth the trouble and changed into some jeans. Of course you then still have the men who decide to make a comment that you are wearing jeans in warm weather :rolleyes: Does it ever occur to men that you are not out to attract their attention?

Monique, if other guys are like me they're just interested because of two things...

1. Women are not men.

2. You have a nice eye.:smile:
 
  • #83
Yeah, there is really nothing that can be done about it :smile:

Maybe we should just learn to not be bothered by it ;)
 
  • #85
Astronuc said:
Flies, as well as bees, maybe attracted to the same flower. :biggrin:

It's the law of unintended consequences. :smile:

I agree Astronuc :biggrin: AND you put it well, the law of unintended consequences.
 
  • #86
AUK 1138 said:
true. however, awkwardly attempting to hit on a woman isn't very manly. It's cowardly.
It is not cowardly, how else would awkward nerds get any girls? By just sitting in a corner reading books?
 
  • #87
Klockan3 said:
All guys likes makeup

All guys like Dr. Pepper, gin, and salted peanuts.

Klockan3 said:
In a way I think that if she puts on noticeable amounts of makeup she would scare away the nerds, probably the easiest way to do it without scaring away all of the guys.
^^this made me LOL

something like this then...
http://chicstories.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/new-year-make-up.jpg
 
  • #88
HeLiXe said:
All guys like Dr. Pepper, gin, and salted peanuts.
That is not the same thing since that is a specific taste, but roughly all guys likes to drink and eat. All guys have different taste in how they want women to look! "No makeup" is not a look in the same way as "makeup" is not a look either, makeup can however be used to alter your look in some way. Saying that you don't like "makeup" thus doesn't really make sense, it is kinda like saying that you don't like "spices".
 
  • #89
Some guys don't even like women
 
  • #90
HeLiXe said:
All guys like Dr. Pepper, gin, and salted peanuts.


^^this made me LOL

something like this then...
http://chicstories.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/new-year-make-up.jpg
That would look really cool on a 4 m x 4 m canvas in an art museum, but not on a person. All it needs is proper lighting, and . . . . .
 

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