Going down a slide CONSERVATION OF ENERGY

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The discussion focuses on applying the conservation of energy principle to determine the speed of a thrill seeker at the bottom of a frictionless slide inclined at 45 degrees. The key equation used is KEi + PEi = KEf + PEf, where potential energy at the top converts to kinetic energy at the bottom. The participant expresses confusion about when to break forces into components, particularly in relation to angles. It is clarified that energy conservation allows for simplification, as the path taken does not affect the energy conversion. The conversation also touches on the impact of friction, noting that it becomes relevant when considering angles and real-world scenarios.
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Homework Statement


Suppose a slide is 35.0 meters high, but is a straight slope, inclined at 45 degrees with respect to the horizontal.

a) find the speed of a 60.0kg thrill seeker at the bottom of the slide, assuming no friction.
b) if the thrill seeker has a speed of 20.0m/s at the bottom, find the change in mechanical energy due to friction
c) find the magnitude of the force of friction


Homework Equations


KEi + PEi = KEf + PEf


The Attempt at a Solution



a) since there is no friction, mechanical energy is conserved. So therefore using the above equation: KEi + PEi = KEf + PEf. However, i have difficulty when the question adds an angle. When do I know when to break into x and y components??

In this case, KEi = 0, PEi = mgy1, KEf = 1/2mv^2, PEf = 0

Therefore, PEi = KEf
mgy1 = 1/2mv2^2
square root of 2gy1 = v2^2 (where y1 = 35m)

is that right?
 
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Your notation is a little confusing, but from your set up you want to solve for v in the following equation

mgy_1=\frac{1}{2}mv_2^2
 
However, i have difficulty when the question adds an angle. When do I know when to break into x and y components?
That's a great thing about the energy method of solving problems like this. Energy is energy. It doesn't matter how you get from State 1 to State 2. You can largely ignore what happens in between.

Now, in "real-life", there will always be friction. The friction is defined as the normal component of the weight, multiplied by the friction coefficient. That means that the shallower the angle, the greater the friction force, and the slower resulting speed. However, neglecting friction, you can ignore that fact.
 
So when do you consider the angles? Only when there is friction?
 
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