Grade 11 Physics: Spring Constant & Elevator Acceleration Problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the spring constant and the stretch of a spring in a vertically attached scenario within an accelerating elevator. The spring constant was determined to be 192 N/m using the formula F=KX, where F is the force due to gravity on a 5.00 kg mass. For part B, the total force acting on the spring when the elevator accelerates upwards is calculated as F_total = m(g + a_elevator), which accounts for both gravity and the elevator's acceleration. The confusion arises from whether to add or subtract the elevator's acceleration; however, since the elevator's upward movement increases the effective weight, the correct approach is to add the acceleration. Understanding the effects of acceleration in an elevator is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Suppose a spring is attached vertically to the ceiling of an elevator. When a 5.00Kg mass is attached to the spring, it descends a distance of 25.5 cm.

a) what is the spring constant of the spring?

I found out that it was 192 N/m, so my problem is with part B!

b) how far would the spring stretch if the elevator were accelerating up at a rate of 3.50 m/s2?

I just want to know what I should do, because I don't know! Thanks!
 
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so the work I did in order to determine the spring constant is as follows:

F=KX

K=F/X=mg/x=(5.00kg)(9.81m/s2)/0.255m=192N/m

I don't understand part b though!
 
The spring is now counteracting gravity as well as the acceleration of the elevator away from the mass.So the total force is

<br /> F_{total} = m(g + a_{elevator})<br />
set this equal to the equation of how the spring reacts to a force
<br /> F_{total} = KX<br />

and you'll have your distance
 
thanks, but for the Ftotal, wouldn't it be equal to m(g-aelevator) since it is going opposed to it?
 
np man, happy to help!

since the elevator is going up and away from the mass it will additionally stretch the spring

It's one of those things that you have to work your head around. If you are in an elevator and it goes up you are heavier as it accelerates.

As you go down in an elevator you are lighter (you feel your stomach go up a little).

So if the elevator was going down the acceleration would be negative.
 
alright, I understand! Thanks for the help!
 
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