Gravitational Force Between Two Identical Rods of Mass m and Length l

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The discussion focuses on calculating the gravitational force between two identical rods of mass "m" and length "l," positioned in a straight line with a separation of "l." Participants explore the use of calculus to analyze the problem by considering small elements of mass. The gravitational force equation is proposed as F = Gm.m/(4l.l), but there is confusion regarding the correct distance between the centers of mass of the rods. Clarification reveals that the separation between the centers of mass is actually 2l, leading to further discussion on the correct application of the gravitational force formula. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately determining the distance between the rods' centers for proper force calculation.
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There are 2 identical rods of mass "m" and length "l" separated by a distance "l" in such a way that the 2 rods are in a straight line. Find the Gravitational force between these two rods.



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I'm unable to analyse a calculus based strategy such as chosing the small elemnt of mass "dm" length "dx" and so on..
 
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peeyush_ali said:
There are 2 identical rods of mass "m" and length "l" separated by a distance "l" in such a way that the 2 rods are in a straight line. Find the Gravitational force between these two rods.



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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm unable to analyse a calculus based strategy such as chosing the small elemnt of mass "dm" length "dx" and so on..

Just use their centers of mass, and the gravitational force equation. Write that out for us.
 
so u mean to say that the interaction is nothing but...


F= Gm.m/4 l.l ??
 
peeyush_ali said:
so u mean to say that the interaction is nothing but...


F= Gm.m/4 l.l ??

Almost. What is the separation of the centers of mass in terms of l?
 
the situation is like this :

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_____l_____ (l+l/2+l/2) _____l_____ the separation between the centres of the 2 rods is l+l/2 +l/2 =2l
 
peeyush_ali said:
the situation is like this :

|<___________________>|
_____l_____ (l+l/2+l/2) _____l_____


the separation between the centres of the 2 rods is l+l/2 +l/2 =2l

Two rods of length L have their centers of mass separated by L/2 or 2L? Why? Not.
 
the centres are separated by a length of 2l
 
peeyush_ali said:
the centres are separated by a length of 2l

If each rod is length L, then I don't think so. Just use a practical example. What if each rod is 1 meter long, and you stack them end-to-end. How far apart are the centers of the rods?
 
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