Gravitational Potential Energy Problem

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The problem involves a snowball being fired from a cliff, requiring calculations related to gravitational potential energy and work done by gravitational forces during its flight. The subject area pertains to mechanics, specifically gravitational potential energy and kinematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculations for work done by gravity and changes in gravitational potential energy, questioning the reference height used and the relevance of initial velocity and angle. Some express uncertainty about the correctness of their approaches.

Discussion Status

Some participants affirm the calculations for parts a and b, while others challenge the reasoning for part c, suggesting different interpretations of potential energy at the reference height. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the chosen reference point for potential energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the reference height for potential energy is critical to the problem, with some suggesting it should be at the top of the cliff rather than the ground. There is also mention of the need to consider the initial velocity and angle, although some believe they are not necessary for the calculations.

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Homework Statement



A 0.720 kg snowball is fired from a cliff 8.10 m high. The snowball's initial velocity is 14.2 m/s, directed 30.0° above the horizontal. (a) How much work is done on the snowball by the gravitational force during its flight to the flat ground below the cliff? (b) What is the change in the gravitational potential energy of the snowball-Earth system during the flight? (c) If that gravitational potential energy is taken to be zero at the height of the cliff, what is its value when the snowball reaches the ground?

Homework Equations



Wg = mgyi - mgyf
Change in U = -W

The Attempt at a Solution



a) Wg = .720*9.8*8.10 = 57.1536 J
b) Change in U = -W = -57.1536 J
c) Ug = 0 J (I believe this is correct because since the initial Ug = 0 and the final height is 0, then the overall has to be 0 J)

I'm not sure about my answers because I didn't utilize the speed or angle they gave me that's one reason why I'm posting on here. I'm not sure if my formulas used are correct or incorrect.
My reference height used was at the bottom of the cliff. That equals zero.
 
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Your answers to a and b look OK. For c, the ref height is the top of the 8.10 m cliff; thus at the top of the cliff, using the PE as zero at the cliff height, then at the bottom of the cliff, PE =?
 
i think your c) is wrong...
because the potential energy at the top of cliff is 0 so, at ground(just before hitting) it should be less than 0..

And i also think that there is no need to use the angle given...

EDIT: this is the second time phanthomjay and me gave answers at almost same time..:smile:
 
So part c) is

Wg = .720*9.8*0 -.720*9.8*8.1 = -57.1536 J

Is that what you are saying? If that's so then basically my answer for all parts is the same value just different signs?
 
basically, yes :smile:
 

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