Proton Splitting in Nitrotoluene

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The discussion centers on the complexities of splitting trees in NMR spectroscopy, specifically regarding nitrotoluene and toluene. It highlights the confusion surrounding how protons can be influenced by substituents that are not directly adjacent, particularly those that are several bonds away. The conversation clarifies that while protons typically couple with neighboring carbons, coupling can occur over longer distances, especially in unsaturated systems where the coupling constants are more pronounced and detectable with modern NMR technology. The distinction between aliphatic and unsaturated systems is emphasized, noting that longer-range couplings (>J3) are often negligible in aliphatic compounds but can be significant in unsaturated ones.
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Hello.
I remember a problem I had with drawing a splitting tree for nitrotoluene. The coupling constants varied, you know, para, meta, ortho, they were all different. My teacher told us to assume certain values for each. What I don't understand is how a proton in nitrotoluene (or even toluene, whatever) is split by these substituents that are so far away. I read that protons can only be split by a neighbouring carbon, or, (if there's a double bond) the neighbouring carbon's neighbour, mr. carbon 3! (mr. carbon 1 is the carbon whose proton is being split). I hope you're not too confused. And so what's the point of having a coupling constant for something that's ortho, something that's more than 3 bonds away (2 sigma bonds for pi and a sigma bond)? There's something obviously wrong with the way I'm looking at this, someone PLEASE enlighten me.
 
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You can have coupling occur at a distance of 4 or five bonds. In an aliphatic system the coupling constant further than 3 bonds (>J3) is often small and unless you're using a very powerful NMR they won't be seen. In unsaturated systems, however, the coupling constant is greater and can easily be seen on most modern NMRs.
 
Thanks, that was helpful.
 
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