Had an, oh, that's how moment - Slingshot manuever

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The discussion centers on the mechanics of the slingshot maneuver, where an object gains speed by using the trajectory of another body, effectively siphoning momentum. The poster realizes that a steeper ejection trajectory is necessary to maintain momentum, benefiting from the gravitational pull's exponential drop-off. They also acknowledge the potential for different approaches, such as coming in the opposite direction, but lack the mathematical analysis to determine the best method. The conversation touches on the importance of understanding gravitational interactions, emphasizing that the initial and final speeds relative to the slingshot body remain constant without propulsion. The poster expresses a desire to further explore the mathematics behind the concept.
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Had an, "oh, that's how" moment - Slingshot manuever

So I've pondered on this off and on, could never see how it was possible, suddenly it just hit me.. tell me if I'm correct.

In order to gain speed the object is using the orbital (or simply directional) trajectory of another. It allows itself to be pulled/tugged/towed towards, ideally on the same trajectory as the object, siphoning off it's momentum into itself for a boost. I'm assuming the ejection trajectory must be quite steeper than the insertion in order maintain this momentum, taking advantage of the exponential drop off of gravitational pull over distance.

Makes sense to me, but did I get it right?

Thanks!

I can also see how coming in the opposite direction could also work as well, by not doing the math though I'm not sure which would produce a better result.

Sorry, also just realized this probably belongs in the Classical Physics thread. Don't know how to move/delete this original post.
 
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You cannot understand gravitational slingshots as two-body problem. Relative to the planet/moon where the slingshot happens, the initial and final speed are always the same*. The velocity relative to a third object (sun/planet) can increase in this process.

*without propulsion. With propulsion this would use the Oberth effect.
 
Thank you both. Why, oh why, do I think about problems involving the word 'relative'? Tweaks my brain a bit but, at least, it forces me to flex it.

I'm going to have to do the math now as my explanation seemed perfectly reasonable. Give me a bit, possibly a couple days, I'm no student and this might take me a bit to wrap my head around.

Cheers!
 
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