Harness AC Current for Breadboard w/ LabPro

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of harnessing AC current from household power for use in a breadboard setup with Vernier LabPro equipment. Participants explore methods to safely obtain and observe AC signals, while addressing safety concerns and equipment specifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • MiKael describes an attempt to use an extension cord to connect household AC to a breadboard but reports not observing the expected sinusoidal waveform.
  • Some participants express concern about the safety of using household mains power for experimentation, suggesting that it can be dangerous without proper experience.
  • Questions are raised regarding the characteristics of MiKael's power supply, including whether it is rectified, which would affect the waveform observed.
  • One participant recommends using a function generator for safe AC signal generation.
  • Another suggests using a step-down transformer to safely obtain a lower voltage AC output from the wall socket.
  • Alternatives such as using an audio test tone from consumer electronics are proposed for generating sinusoidal waveforms if a function generator is not available.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the potential dangers of using household AC power without proper knowledge and supervision. However, there are multiple competing views on the best methods to safely generate and observe AC signals.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of safety and proper equipment when working with AC current, noting that household mains can be fatal if mishandled. There is uncertainty regarding the specifications of MiKael's power supply and its impact on the observed current.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in safely experimenting with AC circuits, those seeking alternative methods for generating AC signals, and anyone considering the use of household power in experimental setups.

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Hello All,
I am currently in need of rigging an AC CIrcuit within my household in order to run through a breadboard where I can "play with it" and observe it with Vernier LabPro equiptment. My problem is that I only have a power supply at my disposal. Since a house runs on AC current is there that I can harness this current and run it through wires to my breadboard. I already attempted plugging an extension cord into the wall and then running alligator clips from the large (power) socket and small (ground) socket of the opposite end of the extension to the input and output ports of the breadboard. Viewing this with the Vernier software for current I was not able to view the markedly sinusoidal action one would expect of an AC current and it resembles the graph of when I am not running a current at all (minor highs and lows varying close to .002). Does anyone have any advice as to how to harness this current or obtain an AC from the power supply? Any advice to the above would be greatly appreciated.

-MiKael
 
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By the sounds of your set up you name should be impending doom :rolleyes:
 
What are the characteristics of the power supply? A power supply for what? Is it rectified, which means one will not see a sinusoidal characteristic, but perhaps a relatively constant current with some ripple.

If one wants to observe, it would be best to use an appropriate signal generator with safe voltages.

Wall current can be fatal if handled inappropriately. If one does not have experience with such equipment, it would be best to do this under the supervision of someone with experience, and in a proper laboratory.
 
Honestly, it sounds as if you have absolutely no idea what you're doing. You should not attempt anything with household mains without significant experience. I actually feel as though I should not give you any advice, because you are very likely to hurt yourself (or start a fire) if you continue this kind of unsupervised experimentation.

Find someone with some experience to help you in person.

- Warren
 
The safest way is to probably use a function generator.
 
(huh - my last reply got eaten somewhere :mad: )

If you really need to monitor the quality of your house's AC, look for a step-down transformer, preferably one that plugs directly into the wall, and something like 5 volts AC output. Not to be confused with the more common "wall wart" battery eliminators for consumer electronics, which rectify the AC.

If any old sinusoidal waveform will do, and you don't have a function generator, you can always use an audio test tone played through a computer sound card, or an iPod, CD player, whatever.
 

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