Head-on collision of an electron and a proton

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the head-on collision of an electron and a proton, focusing on the calculation of available energy and the role of the angle in the energy-momentum relation. Participants explore the implications of the angle in the context of relativistic physics.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation for available energy in a collision and questions why the term includes ##1 - \cos(\theta)## instead of just ##\cos(\theta)##.
  • Another participant reiterates the question about the angle's definition in this context.
  • A different participant suggests that the term "1" arises from the temporal components of the 4-momenta, implying a connection to relativistic formulations.
  • One participant states that an angle of zero indicates that the particles are moving in the same direction with the same speed, which may relate to the interpretation of the angle in the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the angle and its implications for the energy calculation, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the assumptions regarding the definitions of the angle or the specific conditions under which the equations apply, leaving some aspects open to interpretation.

Philip Land
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Hey!

Let's say we have an electron and proton colliding head-on.

We will have ##|p| \sim E##

Where ##p_1=(E_1, \vec{p_1})## &##p_2=(E_2, \vec{p_2})##

If we want the available energy. We can calculate ##\sqrt{s} = \sqrt{(p_1 + p_2)^2}##

We get $$s= p_1^2 + p_2^2 + 2p_1p_2 = m_e^2 + m_p^2 + 2E_1E_2(1-cos(\theta)).$$

My question is why we get ##1-cos(\theta)## and not just ##cos(\theta)## which is one since the angle is zero?
 
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Philip Land said:
Let's say we have an electron and proton colliding head-on.
Philip Land said:
My question is why we get ##1-cos(\theta)## and not just ##cos(\theta)## which is one since the angle is zero?
How do you define the angle?
 
The 1 is from the temporal components of the 4-momenta.
 
An angle of zero means the particles fly in the same direction with the same speed.
 

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