Head on Collision: Physics of X & Y Spheres

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In a head-on elastic collision between two spheres X and Y, both initially moving towards each other at equal speeds of +5 m/s and -5 m/s, the conservation of momentum dictates that both spheres will recoil at 5 m/s in opposite directions after the collision. The initial claim that sphere X comes to rest while sphere Y moves off at 10 m/s is incorrect, as it violates the principle of symmetry in elastic collisions when masses are equal. The discussion also touches on the relative speed of separation, which applies only to perfectly elastic collisions but does not require equal masses. Additionally, there is a request for resources explaining the center of mass and its relation to the system's center of gravity. The consensus is that in elastic collisions, neither sphere will come to rest.
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Hi everyone,

I've got a problem with solving this one.

Two spheres X and Y (no mentioning about them being identical in mass but drawn in equal sizes) are about to collide head on. Their initial velocities are +5ms^-1 and -5ms^-1 initially, moving towards each other with X being towards east. Assuming completely elastic and head-on collision, what happens to the spheres after collision?

The answer I was given was that X comes to a rest while Y moves off in the reverse direction, that is, east with 10ms^-1.

Why is this so? I don't really understand why is it that Y would move off and not the other way around where X moves off towards west with 10ms^-1? Why is all momentum transferred to Y and not X? I apologise that I don't have any workings with me when I should have but I'm confused with the principles here. Also, does the relative speed of approach only applicable to elestic collisions?

Thanks again to all for the constant help.
 
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al_201314 said:
Two spheres X and Y (no mentioning about them being identical in mass but drawn in equal sizes) are about to collide head on. Their initial velocities are +5ms^-1 and -5ms^-1 initially, moving towards each other with X being towards east. Assuming completely elastic and head-on collision, what happens to the spheres after collision?

The answer I was given was that X comes to a rest while Y moves off in the reverse direction, that is, east with 10ms^-1.
The answer you were given is obviously wrong, if the masses are the same. Conservation of momentum requires that the centre of mass does not change. The centre of mass is at rest in the lab frame. They both recoil at 5 m/sec in opposite directions.

AM
 
Yes, as AM said the answer is definitely wrong .
Imagine this, there is nothing special given about mass X or Y . That is the names can be used interchangeably(except for the direction of velocity), this implies that whatever causes an effect on both objects simultaneously (like a collission) should show symmetrical effects. So the answer is clearly wrong ( As you have observed, why isn't it the other way round ?).
The only way to distinguish further between X and Y is to give their masses and they are not the same too.
 
Thanks guys. For the formula on the relative speed of separation, can it be only used on perfectly elastic collisions and on objects of equal masses?

Anyway the interesting part is that the other option (its a MCQ) is both speheres come to rest after collision.

Do you have any websites that explains that COM does require the CG of the system to be the same? Couldn't really find some good ones.

Many thanks!
 
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al_201314 said:
Thanks guys. For the formula on the relative speed of separation, can it be only used on perfectly elastic collisions and on objects of equal masses?
The formula can be used only on perfectly elastic collisions but the masses need not be the same.

Do you have any websites that explains that COM does require the CG of the system to be the same? Couldn't really find some good ones.
What is CG? If it is the centre of gravity, then you are asking whether the intertial mass is identical to gravitational mass. Try googling "Eotvos experiment".

AM
 
The masses will definitely not come to rest, if the collission is elastic (why ?).
If you could give us all the options in the MCQ , we could direct you to the right answer, perhaps it involves eliminating all other options, since the masses are not given .
 
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