Heat Transfer Coefficient for Phase Change

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The discussion focuses on calculating the time required for a 100-gram sphere of ice at 0°C to melt in one liter of water at 30°C. The heat transfer coefficient is initially calculated using the formula h = q/A delta T, resulting in a heat transfer rate of 0.162 cal/sec. However, the challenge arises as both the surface area and temperature difference decrease during the melting process, leading to an inaccurate estimate of 13.7 hours for the ice to melt. Participants question whether a different approach should be applied instead of relying solely on the heat transfer coefficient. The complexities of the melting process highlight the need for a more nuanced solution.
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Homework Statement


One liter of water at 30 C (30000 calories )
A 100 gram sphere of ice at 0 C in center of water volume .
The ice will absorb 80000 calories melting, and final water temperature
= 22000 cal/1100g = 20 C.
Assume mixing and uniform water temp during melting and water vessel
insulated from surroundings. How long for ice to melt ?

Homework Equations


Heat Transfer Coefficient
h =q/A delta T
q = cal/sec
h = cal/sec/M2 C for ice , .523 cal/sec ( converted watts to cal/sec )
A = surface area. for approx 100 cc ice = .01034 M2 ( initial)
delta T 30 C ( initial )

The Attempt at a Solution


This is difficult since both Area and delta T are decreasing
For initial conditions only: q = ( .523 cal/sec/ M2 C ) ( .01034 M2(30 C
q= .162 cal/sec. so 8000 cal/ .162cal/sec. = 13.7 hrs
But in the real case this is not correct as A and delta T are decreasing
 
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morrobay said:

Homework Statement


One liter of water at 30 C (30000 calories )
A 100 gram sphere of ice at 0 C in center of water volume .
The ice will absorb 80000 calories melting, and final water temperature
= 22000 cal/1100g = 20 C.
Assume mixing and uniform water temp during melting and water vessel
insulated from surroundings. How long for ice to melt ?

Homework Equations


Heat Transfer Coefficient
h =q/A delta T
q = cal/sec
h = cal/sec/M2 C for ice , .523 cal/sec ( converted watts to cal/sec )
A = surface area. for approx 100 cc ice = .01034 M2 ( initial)
delta T 30 C ( initial )



The Attempt at a Solution


This is difficult since both Area and delta T are decreasing
For initial conditions only: q = ( .523 cal/sec/ M2 C ) ( .01034 M2(30 C
q= .162 cal/sec. so 8000 cal/ .162cal/sec. = 13.7 hrs
But in the real case this is not correct as A and delta T are decreasing

1. That should be 8000 calories melting: ice heat of fusion (80 cal/g) (100g)
Can anyone do this problem or should something else be applied in place of
Heat Transfer Coefficient ?
 

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